huh.
Guess we should enforce real world ratios of hertos into all gay movies too. seems to me, people should just make movies for the groups they want to, and not try to please all of everyone all the time.
if gays want to make movies with 100% all gay cast, for gay audiences, I say more power to them. If straights want to make 100% all strait movies (96% ), I say more power to them. No need for there to be some "inclusive" character stuck in to an all strait movie.
"Waaaa! Waaaa! You're new movie did not include X! WAAAAA!"
"Gee... I did not make this movie for X to be the audience. I can't make a movie for absolutely everyone. That would be insane."
STAR TREK 14: "Captain Chekov is into scat jobs...." great. is this plot related? Who gives a shit? (Pun very intended) This detail is unimportant story wise. As is someone's sexual preference - unless it affects the direction of the story. So is straight people's sexual preference. BUT, it will show up more, since that is 96% of the audience. 96%!! Not 4%, not 12%, not 50%, but 96%. Because size IS important.
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cyberbob (3488)
3 years ago
You're operating under the assumption that all straight people are like you and only want to have 100% straight casts in their movies because they have some ideological problem with homosexuality. In reality most people don't give a shit if there are gay characters in movies
I doubt that JJ Abrams or Justin Lin have a strong desire, like you, to have 100% straight casts. Again, even if the percentage of the population that is LGBT is only 4%, that's greater than zero. Having 1 or 2 gay characters in a whole movie trilogy seems to match up with that proportion, so I'm not sure what your argument here is
It's not like Fundamentalist Christians are running Hollywood lol, and that's one of the only major demographics in the country that is strongly anti LGBTQ like you. If they aren't the ones making movies then why would you expect the movies being produced to reflect their beliefs?
You seem to think that most directors/producers would WANT 100% straight characters, but feel compelled to add LGBTQ characters to be inclusive. Maybe they WANT to be inclusive? Maybe they want to add a gay character because they're from a very liberal state and it's more realistic from their POV to not have 100% straight characters? And again, it's not like half of the characters are LGBTQ. Most major franchises still only have very few. Nothing particularly unrealistic about it
If it upsets you because you don't like gay people for whatever reason then just say that. Just say that it's what you personally desire. Because your points don't make much sense
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123Guy (7282)
3 years ago
no, I'm simply "generalizing" as one should do when trying to talk with a billion people online.
mine were examples, not concrete, must be situations.
I'm STILL not upset. wtf is wrong with people?? just answer the question and stop worrying about MY feelings :D
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123Guy (7282)
3 years ago
me: ask question
internet: he brings up something controversial, THEREFORE it upsets him!
internet: let's all jump on THAT diversion instead of the original question!
more internet: Yes! LET'S THAT! RAHHH!! CHARGE!!!!!
Me: [shaking my head]
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cyberbob (3488)
3 years ago
I'm trying to answer your original question. I'm not gay so I can't speak for them if they find it insulting, but I do know that the term "queerbaiting" exists, so yeah it's a thing that has been talked about before. I don't know why they made Sulu gay, but if I had to guess I'd say they did it as a tribute to George Takei
When artists retroactively state that characters are gay I do find that offensive. Like JK Rowling with Dumbledore or whoever write the Han Solo movie saying Lando was written as pansexual in an interview even though the movie included no mention of his sexuality. Even as a straight person I can see how disingenuous that is. It's a clear attempt to get free "inclusivity points" from the media
But seeing background or tertiary characters shown as gay, even if it's irrelevant to the plot, doesn't bother me. If a character in a movie says "I hate my wife's cooking", nobody would think anything of it. But if a male character were to mention an unseen husband then it would be called "forced diversity". Sure, it's relatively new to see gay characters populating more and more movie roles so to some people it may be jarring, but I know plenty of gay people in real life. Seeing them occupy more roles in movies just seems to be reflecting the reality that I know more approximately
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