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A Corona stat I would like to know.


So the new normal is a shut down because we are told the curve needs to be reduced. Right now I'm still on the fence about this whole thing.

There are currently 5000 confirmed cases in the US with 93 deaths. I realize there will be more deaths, but as more cases are confirmed I think the rate will go much lower. We really won't know until this thing has run it course, but the stat I would like to know is how many people so far have actually required hospitalization and more importantly been put on ventilators?

Don't get me wrong, my husband and I are in a high risk group, so we are doing our part and staying home, but I would really like to know if all of the hype about a shortage of hospital beds and ventilators is really warranted.

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It's preventative measures so what happened in Italy doesn't happen here.

I haven't read about shortages of hospital beds and ventilators yet. Nor do I want to.

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This. They are being incredibly cautious in order to stop its spread early.

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My province has 527 respirators, with a population over 4 million with over half a million over 65. Those are not great odds.

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I would just like to know how many people have actually required hospitalization and ventilators 10% 20% 50% or more of the confirmed cases. By now there should be a number reported and I can't find that.

It was just announced in Ohio that there are 67 confirmed cases and 17 required hospitalization, so about 5%, but do all of those require ventilators?

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In the Diamond Princess there were 700 cases confirmed, with every passenger tested.

35 of them (5%) were considered severe, so I imagine that's the number that required ventilators. 7 of them (1%) died.

Be aware that the passengers (the cases confirmed) were mostly retired people, which is the high risk group.

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I don't recall if those 35 were removed from the ship before the rest or left on with everyone else. I'll have to look it up.

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Check this article, perhaps you'll find it interesting

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/16/diamond-princess-mysteries/

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Thanks - that is very enlightening. Just exactly why did so many who had to be exposed not catch the virus? Perplexing.

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I think a possible explanation is that they actually caught the virus.

Current tests detect if you have the virus, but they can't tell if you had the virus (that's a different type of test that doesn't look for the virus itself, but for antibodies). If they caught the virus but killed it quickly, by the time they were tested they wouldn't have enough viral load to test positive.

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That makes sense.

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I will see if I can find it.

I have been reading the CDC info and they say it is a much more mild illness that thought. The Wuhan situation had a lot of people dying which is now abnormal.

The virus is described as less than a cold by them. Many feel allergy symptoms and barely feel ill. That lasts for a few days. So, I don't know how that could hurt almost anyone. The people in Italy dying are 80 and 90 year olds. I have read on the Harvard site, people with lung cancer, etc.

So, you have to have a VERY bad immune system is a three day case of the sniffles is going to kill you.

I'm sure this situation is going to continue to be more and more harmless. I can't see how there would be a rush on people going to the hospital. Probably, existing places like nursing homes could be in crisis. But it will not be the normal population.

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Since there's no cure and no treatment for a severe case of this disease, about all that can be done for a really severe case is to put a person on a ventilator until they can get better, and there are only so many ventilators and ICU beds in the world. If the infection

I think the reason this illness is so likely to explode and overwhelm the healthcare system is that it has such a long incubation period. It takes anywhere from 5 days to 14 days from infection for a person to start showing symptoms, and during that time they might be infecting others. As an example, the first case in my area was an older person who had been on a cruise and who lived in an assisted living facility, they were diagnosed about 2 weeks ago and died a few days later. YESTERDAY, about two weeks after the first case, I heard on the news that another person at the same assisted living facility had been diagnosed with the coronavirus - if the new patient had caught it from their sick neighbor, it's taken this long to show.

That's the thing, this disease seems to have a dangerously long incubation period and there's no cure, so literally the ONLY thing that can be done is to prevent people from spreading it to each other. If it spreads through the general population the way a regular cold or flu virus does, most cases will probably still be mild, but there will still be far more people who need ventilators than there are ventilators.

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There are currently 5000 confirmed cases in the US with 93 deaths.

Weird...

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It was Y2K all over again!

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