Why is nobody talking about The Irishman (2019)?
It’s gonna be the movie of the year
shareMaybe there will be more chatter about it once people have had a chance to see the thing?
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I am looking forward to it.
shareNetflix Struggles to Come to Terms With Theater Chains Over ‘The Irishman’ Release
https://observer.com/2019/08/netflix-struggles-to-come-to-terms-with-theater-chains-over-the-irishman-release/
I don't see how they can cave to the exhibitors -- but that production budget sure makes it interesting.
shareThree weeks in the theaters like Roma should be enough.
shareEnough for what?
shareLast year, Roma received an exclusive three-week theatrical run before being made available to Netflix subscribers online.
shareyes, I know. But Roma had a production budget of only $15mil.
It's easy to stand pat with a low budget movie -- but The Irishman needs to bring in more in some manner to be worth it. More subscribers or a longer/wider theatrical run. At 3 months they lose the new subscriber draw, and deviate from their model/brand -- but 3 weeks of a limited release won't rack up enough receipts against a giant budget. $200mil is a high cost for a prestige film.
Netflix and other streaming services need to get together and start their own movie theater chain in order to avoid these issues.
shareYou have to wonder if they are starting to regret the money they spent on this.
shareIt's going to be an interesting test case.
share‘Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’ is closing on $200M. I don't see The Irishman having the same appeal.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/19/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-200-million/
You think Scorsese is past his prime or that there’s less of an audience for that type of movie?
shareLess of an audience I would think. I will be watching it.
shareThat's the thing, his mob pics are not the box office winners people think they are. They get critical acclaim then become classics later on, but only The Departed did well at the box office (b/c of the younger star cast). His movies don't really tick all the demo boxes for financial success. I can't see the younger crowd getting amped for The Irishman.
shareI always thought Goodfellas and Casino were major blockbusters or at least big hits and hugely popular, no?
shareNo, not at all.
I think Goodfellas actually lost money during its theatrical run while Casino broke even or something close to it.
So they weren’t even popular when they came out?
sharePopular? No. Critical acclaim? Yes.
They don't tick off the demos that make for big box office.
No kids, not many women, mostly older males, go.
See for yourself what raked in 1990:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=1990&p=.htm
Goodfellas finished at 26th -- behind a Steven Segal movie and Look Who's Talking Too
‘The Irishman’ to Get Theatrical Release One Month Ahead of Thanksgiving Netflix Premiere
https://www.thewrap.com/martin-scorseses-the-irishman-to-get-theatrical-release-one-month-ahead-of-thanksgiving-netflix-premiere/
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I already watched that movie when it was called "Goodfellas".
Maybe people just don't care that much about Scorsese's 85th movie about the mob.
there may be some truth to that.
shareYeah I am not that excited by the theme either. Not to mention DeNiro and Pacino will just be over acting as per usual. This time with another ham, Pesci.
shareit's 3.5 hours long.
210 bloody minutes.
https://uproxx.com/movies/the-irishman-martin-scorsese-running-time/
Freaking hell. That's way too long. Even Goodfellas, which I think is a great film, could've been shorter.
shareif scorcese can get netflix or any studio to pay $200m for him to produce a 3.5hr movie, then i suppose hats off to him.
but there's nothing in the world i like so much that i want to do it for 3.5 hours.
can i hereby order our great american directors to get their running times under control?