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Ethiopian flight crash


Noticed that the first few identities have been revealed :-( Sending my condolences and wishing the victims to rest in peace.

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It’s a terrible tragedy. Look for that model (737 MAX) to be grounded soon until they figure out definitively what is going on.

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Only in China.

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Seems almost always when there is a big crash you can swear it's a damn Boeing. I wouldn't go by one of those flying tin cans unless i had a serious death wish. They are the fast food version of airplanes.

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I hope this is sarcasm. Airbus and Boeing pretty much have a duopoly on commercial aircraft.

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Sukhoi also has commercial aircrafts. One struck a mountain (also in Indonesia, like one of the Boeing 737 MAX) on it's demo flight, killing all 45 passengers.

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No, it's not sarcasm, the duopoly you're talking about it a reason for the problem. They keep being cheap because they can get away with stuff like this. A small air line would've gone bankrupt after killing that many people. But the Boeings keeps on even when you know the next tragedy is right around the corner. It's fast food, the Mc'Donald's of aircrafts, it's crap but people still by into it and they can continue their business.

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Im not claiming the problem isn´t a duopoly, I just think its laughable that you blame Boeing, calling it fast food when you literally have two aircraft to choose to fly on and Airbus aren´t immune from criticism either. Not to mention, there are a multitude of other factors why planes crash, that a lot of the time have little to do with whoever designed the plane. Faulty maintenance, pilot error, atc error, and environmental factors to name a few. Its possible the Max 8 has a design flaw, but many airlines continue to maintain its a safe aircraft including all US airlines. That´s why I will refrain from judging until the crash investigations have concluded.

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It's true we should wait to judge, you never know, but i'm staying suspicious in the meantime.

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The data doesn’t support your conclusions.

https://www.quora.com/How-many-plane-crashes-does-Boeing-have-compared-to-Airbus

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Seems so, boeing had more crashes though even if not from a statistic standpoint, so no wonder it looks like the worst from outside.

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Also bear in mind that only about 20% of crashes are the result of mechanical failure, and those failures are often a result of improper maintenance rather than any inherent defect in the airplane itself.

The bottom line is that both Boeing and Airbus produce quality aircraft and you are quite safe in an airplane made by either company.

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I don't know if "quite" does it for me.

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Nothing is 100% safe, but commercial aviation remains the safest mode of travel. You are 100 times more likely to die in a taxi on the way to the airport than you are in an airplane crash.

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I'll add something to that which my flight instructor told me. The most dangerous part of an airplane flight is on takeoff, just after the wheels leave the runway. That doesn't mean incidents are impossible elsewhere, but if something goes wrong at cruising altitude the pilot(s) will probably have plenty of time to analyze the situation, contact air traffic control, try out alternatives, etc.

So, anyone who's got a fear of flying should do this. When taking off in that Boeing, note the moment the wheels leave the runway. Count off eleven seconds. If you're still alive, the probability of being killed or injured has already gone from "very, very, very unlikely" to "so insanely unlikely it's foolish to even think about."

I can't give a source for that statistic (eleven seconds), but my CFI did know what she was doing, educated at Embry-Riddle, so I assume she had a good reason for saying that.

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I can understand take off and landing are the most cruicial parts, but a crash while still on the ground is obviously not as terrible as a crash from the sky, so i don't know if that is to much comfort. If the thing is gonna crash then i choose for it to happen on the airstrip.

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The deadliest crash in aviation history occurred on the ground. Two 747s collided on the runway in foggy conditions causing 582 fatalities.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jumbo-jets-collide-at-canary-islands-airport

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Ok, but collisions are it's own thing, it's not a crash then.

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Guess so.

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