Have you heard of this?
Apparently when Nelson Mandela died in 2013, some people claimed to have memories of him dying in prison in the 1980's, they even remember tv news items of the funeral. Another example of this is Tiananmen Square 's Tank man incident where some people remember the man being ran over by the tank.
It's claimed by some to be a crossover from an alternate universe.
It's been around for quite a while Dazed. I think it's just people misremembering things and then being certain that their memories are correct because other people have misremembered the same thing the same way.
I remember Prince Charles and the Spice Girls meeting him in the mid-90's and other things happening in Africa connected with him.
It seems people who didn't keep up to date with the changes in South Africa were caught off-guard when he actually died.
This is one of the reasons the Internet can be a mistake, loonies can engage with each other.
Ah shoot you're no fun....alternate reality is a much more exciting idea!
You dont enjoy a good conspiracy theory?
I remember him being on Groundforce, actually I remember him being freed too.
There have been celebrity deaths when I thought they were already dead though.
Well reality still has lots of fun associated with it Dazed.
There was the fall of the Berlin Wall, Nelson Mandela being released with the ANC legalised and the end of the USSR all within a year or two of each other.
I've no problem with conspiracy theories and fantastical stories being shared by people as long as people know not to take them too seriously. Sadly there are always those who do and those who would exploit them for doing so.
Much like the cult of Prometheus there can be fun showing charlatans for what they are.
Is this National bring Prometheus to work day?
I find conspiracy theories quite entertaining, like you say they need to be appreciated for fun and not as a serious consideration.
With that said....James Herbert's last book Ash was about a place where all of these characters like controversial celebs or public figures who want to disappear end up. (Like Lord Lucan for example) Anyway, they pay to be kept away from the public, or are hidden away by their families. One of these was supposedly a third son of Charles and Diana who has a rare disorder which means his skin is transparent or something.
Well I saw JH being interviewed about the book and he seemed fine, but then a few months later he was dead. I've yet to see a cause of death and the only information given was that he was not ill! I find that a bit eerie.
But then I'm a looney!
James Herbert's death is one of many deaths which people can rack up as questionable and curious.
I'm sure there are deaths which have some sort of conspiracy behind them (David Kelly in the UK being one of them) and it is always fun to hear about Elvis being in space or how lizards rule the world but things can get out of control when you have someone fester these ideas and some nutjob like Anders Behring Breivik takes out innocents in some sort of noble crusade.
I like some conspiracies on the surface level but the real ones always end up covered up and the most fantastical seem to spawn violence.
I watched a documentary about Breivik, absolutely horrifying. Youngsters trying to swim away from him, one can only imagine how terrifying.
The 9/11 ones are out there too.
Yes he was a very troubled man Dazed. A man who consumed lots of conspiracies and couldn't tell them apart from reality leading to lots of innocents dying.
I can take the odd 9/11 conspiracy at an entertaining level as long as it accepts that people died and situations like that are already prepared for but seemingly failed on that particular day.
JFK and Princess Diana are also ideas I enjoy reading people explore as long as they are respectful to those they left behind.
Mandela effect is fine until someone claims to have come from a Hitler rules world and wants to wipe out group X (Whoever they might be).
Dazed, do you know if Elvis crossed over with them from the alternate universe? Oh, good lord, I hope a Croft dog didn’t cross with them! If anyone notices Croft honing his axe...he’s aware.
shareI don't know, I mean is Elvis really dead in this one?!
In an alternate reality Elvis is no doubt a vegan who exercises daily and has never thrust his pelvis in his life.
😂😂 Glory be....if he didn’t have that paunch and the hideous bling outfits!
shareNo self respecting man should wear a white bling jumpsuit, paunch or no paunch!
Dazed, you nailed it! Trouble is I think he lost his self respect! He should not have looked the way he did for a man in his 40’s. He would have continued to draw the crowds without the garish outfits and capes. Sad, he had it all.
shareWas Elvis really only 42 when he died?
I'm shocked, I just googled it and I'm checking it twice.
I thought he was at least in his 50's.
He began consuming the drugs...then he allowed the drugs to consume him. Such a shame. The way he looked at age 42 was a pitiful sight. I remember where I was when I heard the news. He was only 8 years older than me, but looked a hell of a lot older than 42!
shareSee also:
The Beirenstain Bear Effect.
Yes that one comes up in the quiz, apparently lots of people think it's spelt Beirenstein?
Another is the Monopoly guy who doesn't have a monocle but people think he does.
I've heard of it. I remember it being spelled Berenstein and the Monopoly guy having a monocle, but it'd be easy enough for me to have read the Berenst and my mind expected it to finish with ein, so filled it in. Could have put Mr Peanut's monocle on Monopoly guy, so remembered him that way. But I will say Monopoly guy would look better with a monocle!
I'm not going to say alternative universes aren't possible. Quantum physics has opened up a whole world of possibilities we never before imagined were possible.
So I won't discount everything attributed to the Mandela effect, but a whole lot of it's people going wild with hooey, because their memories are bad. Some insist certain words used to be spelled another way, like cheddar. They're just bad spellers 😂
Agreed Monopoly guy (is he called Pennybags?) would definitely suit a monocle.
I'm intrigued as to how cheddar used to be spelled according to some folk!
It's weird how people add letters to words too, for instance there is a store called Matalan in the UK and loads of people add a D so it's Mataland!
Pennybags, that's his name!
Chedder. Some of these Mandela Effect people swear up and down it's been changed 😂
Yes, a lot of people add letters to words. It's weird!
No, it's not a crossover from an alternate universe though as a sci-fi fan I do LOVE that theory. It's actually due to peoples' memories being faulty, some worse than others.
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Oh, I've heard of it, alright...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaPxUMCda4o