Sub-urban Myth?

VERY well said

I don't think that anybody is trying to extensively predict a person's emotional makeup from one item of clothing. At the same time as you hinted with your statement that leather pants are fairly mainstream these days which is to say not that long ago they were not. That a person who wore them back during the 1980's tended to be unconventional to a certain degree.

You are right in that she may have chose those pants for that errand and may have wore something different the following day. I don't see that anybody is making up any story such as she dropped her pants while in the soap and detergent aisle and proceeded to have sex. The only thing that was noted about her was the leather pants, a guess as to her age, and that she was in a grocery store.

I question that people are not hung up over the clothing choices of mates and potential mates. Otherwise I don't think that we would see people wear clothing that is either unpractical and/or uncomfortable like we do. You can't tell me that wearing 3 inch plus heels for several hours is comfortable for most women. That wearing jeans so tight that you can not bend over in them plus have a rub mark on your skin from the button is practical or comfortable.

I agree with your last statement in that you should get to know a person and if you have to make great changes to please that person that in the end you will be unhappy. As far as buying her the leather pants that usually is less than a 50-50 proposition that she will accept. Might want to do that deep in the relationship before she slides on the ring if it's that important.

I doubt a person would lay on a lounge outside that way but to run from air conditioned office to air conditioned car to air conditioned store then back to air conditioned car then go home to central air conditioning would be no tough task.

god that is what I was thinking too, it's over 90 here today and I don't want to wear ANY pants, much less leather ones!
all I can think is SWAMP ASS

I have no idea of what she was buying. The area I live in would be considered interior Northeast USA and average income for somebody with some college education would be 12-15 dollars per hour. If I had to guess she would probably make 15 dollars per hour maybe working over at the hospital or the local college. Enough to have a decent apartment or small house plus car plus a little cash for fashion.

There is a difference between doing something for yourself and doing something for someone else or others. Unless you can afford delivered food three times a day for seven days a week then you have to go to the store. I would say extremely few people where I live could afford to be catered to all the time. Also, again I would point out that I presumed that this person has a job and probably a good one.

It was my friend after all and I am sorry that you are offended by it. When I go to the store I tend to see average women in average clothing. The lady I seem to see almost always every week is (in my opinion) in her early 60's and has two preschool grandchildren with her.

My curiosity is peaked about this because we are talking about a fetish most likely and kind of wondered how couples sort their way through that.

If you don't wear leather it is one of those things people can have a mental block about even if it is faux leather. When I was school age I would have never wore leather. I believed the worst stereotypes about wearing leather. When I got to know people I considered "normal" then I was open to wearing a jacket or pants.

That is what I meant when I said "go through such effort." But that kind of takes back to discussing what is "everyday" clothing-wise for a person in 2017 versus 1987 or 1997 for instance. Back a few decades ago it was jeans or slacks for pants for everybody when they went to the store but how different is today. In fifty or one hundred years from now will they all wear synthetic unitards like we see in so many SF movies.

I think we all make spur of the moment assumptions about people based on first impressions.Unless we get to know them better we never find out if we were right or wrong.

For me leather trousers are just for people who ride motorbikes.

Perfectly practical safety measure if you ride a bike,mad idea if you're just wearing them to do your shopping! Hot,sweaty, smelly,uncomfortable and only flattering if you've a great figure.

I still wouldn't want to guess why your lady was doing her shopping in leather trousers.I guess she just likes them!

I got your comment but I was kind of looking to the next step in all of this. That for instance if we could survey 100 women who own leather pants what their rational is for wearing them. Do they see any difference wearing that versus cotton pants in terms of social perception? You are definitely on to something when you note the significance of men being fascinated with clothing that they perceive as a sexual signal. Further, that we all come from different backgrounds. It may be very well that where you come from women wear leather pants to a degree where no significance can be found for what one given woman may be doing when she does wear such an item. That it may be no more than an expression of fashion.