Scepticism i have towards some vegan arguments
Before i make this thread, i want to say first that i am not making it to attack vegans or the vegan lifestyle. The only ones i dont like are the militant kind who insist in forcing it down your throats.
But some of the things some vegans say, i am very sceptical about, and ill go through them. First of all, when vegan youtubers like Freelee the banana girl, or vegan gains or sorsha morova want to use propaganda tactics to tell you what the meat and dairy industry is really like, they will show you a video collage of the absolute worst case scenarios that go on (and these i reckon are isolated incidences, and not things that go on all the time), like bullying brutal men continuously stomping on the head of a calf, or swinging a piglet around by its feet and slamming it to the floor. Why am i mentioning this?, because this is going to bring me onto my first point.
Vegans like this say that in the milk industry, cows are impregnated through artificial insamination, because they have to give birth in order to produce milk. I wont argue against that bit because that is true. But, those youtubers say that the calves are taken away from its mother almost right away and separated from each other permanently, because otherwise the calf will drink much of its mothers milk meaning less milk for the consumer. Im going to counter this with 2 counter points
Firstly....surely doing that would be a loose loose situation. The cow looses because its seperated from its offspring, and will go through maternal stress and grief, so thats a loss for the cow. And also if the cow goes through those negative emotions...wont that make it produce less milk?, which is the repercussion that they are trying to avoid?
Secondly.....i was in a horses field recently and i looked over the bush into the next field, and what did i see???....i saw many cows. I saw little cows walking side by side next to adult cows (obviously their mothers). When i saw this i sarcasticly said to myself "yeah....calves are instantly separated from their mothers permanently in every dairy industry there is". Of course i am going to be sceptical here when simply looking in some random farm field debunks what they say.
And now my second skeptisism. When Sorsha Morova came out and said "If you dont want world hunger to continue, then go vegan, because it takes more water to produce food for the meat industry than it does for the vegan industry". Ok, im not going to argue against that cows drink alot, given the size they are. Then the cows eat the vegetation that rain water produced. But here's my scepticism. How does us brits or us americans using less rain water that rains over the usa or the uk help people in ethiopia or uganda ect????. If its going to rain somewhere much then its going to rain somewhere much. And if it isnt going to rain somewhere much, then unfortunately its not going to rain somewhere much. I find that claim has no bearing. Us using less rain water does not mean that ethiopians and ugandans are going to get more rain water. Do we ship our unused rain water to them??....no.
And before you say "but livestock farming is the biggest cause of global warming, thats why going vegan would benefit third world countries", my counter to that is , no its not. I have gone onto google before and typed in "what is the biggest cause of global warming?", and about 80-90% of the results came back with "burning fossil fuels from power stations and transportation is". The other 10-20% of the results did say livestock farming was (but of course some cherry picking is going to happen there).