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Is the CIA now admitting conspiracy in JFK's murder?

posted 9 years ago by PrometheusTree64
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Is the CIA now admitting conspiracy --- only re-routing it onto the old "the Communists did it" ruse which they'd originally intended to use Oswald for (before LBJ, wanting to avoid the nuclear holocaust which some hawks in our government at the time thought was "winnable", nixed)?

There are renewed hostilities today between Russia and the US. And, in an apparent effort to flame them, the CIA just came out with its "declassified" papers and revelations that Oswald visited Russia and Cuba just before he allegedly assassinated JFK.

Of course, Oswald's getting into Cuba never happened. And he was part of the fake-defector program both Russia and America had going at the time (which is why Oswald got back into America --- with a Russian wife, no less --- and not only was never even debriefed by any federal agency, but was given money by the State Department to live on! (When real defectors were immediately prosecuted).

But Russia's KGB was well aware of the CIA's plan to kill Kennedy, and they were also aware that Oswald was the intended patsy, sheep-dipped as a defector who supposedly planned to kill JFK for the commies.

Richard Case Nagell was a double agent between the CIA and the KGB, and the Russians were so afraid that Oswald was being used to set up the communists in JFK's upcoming murder, that the KGB gave Nagell the assignment to assassinate Oswald to prevent his being falsely blamed and, hence, the Soviets.

In order to avoid his orders to knock off Oswald by Russia, Nagell walked into an El Paso bank in September 1963, shot thru the ceiling, and went to sit on the curb outside until the cops showed up and whisked him away, thereby placing him in jail during the period of his assignment to kill Lee Oswald.

Richard Case Nagell was the basis for the "X" exchange in Oliver Stone's film (a composite character, based on three different people) although the 1967 conversation with Garrison took place in NYC's Central Park and not the Washington mall.

But is the CIA now reviving this propaganda scenario in light of the recent uptick in tensions between the two superpowers?

LBJ's mistress on JFK's murder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA

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[–] koskiewicz 9 years ago

...it's like a game of chess...it's your move, KGB...

[–] Pdx_Gold 9 years ago

I have read many stuff on this matter: I strongly believe it was a Secret Service accident that killed JFK and nothing more.
The motor cars behind the President contained Secret Service personal, when the shooter fired at the JFK, one of the officers return fire but accidently discharged a bullet that was in line with the back of JFK's head. This happen with the car suddenly stopped to engage the target. The SS then covered up the facts and in the Dallas hospital and rushed the President back to DC to bury what happen.
It was SS accident that occurred.
Please goggle it and learn.

[–] Pdx_Gold 9 years ago

Yes Oswald acted alone but the fatal bullet appear to have accidentaly come from a Secret Service agent behind.

[–] koskiewicz 9 years ago

"Yes Oswald acted alone but the fatal bullet appear to have accidentaly come from a Secret Service agent behind."

Even though the Secret Service agent had an AR15 in the car behind JFKs, the exit wound was in the rear of his skull, which means it could not have come from either the secret service agent or Oswald. The lethal shot came from the front.

[–] Gabe1972 9 years ago

Uh, the entrance wound was in the rear of the skull, and the exit wound was out of the right side of his head. The side of his head blew out, as you can see on the film, because it is an exit wound.

You evidently don't know a whole lot about firearms and what bullets do when they hit, including the difference between and entrance and exit wound.

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[–] delriosong 9 years ago

How can you possibly watch the Zapruder film and believe the explosion from the back of the President's head was caused by an entry wound to the back of the head.

Bullets make little holes going in, and big ones coming out.

Do you think that the First Lady didn't grab a piece of President Kennedy's head off the trunk lid and fetch it back inside the passenger compartment? That's sure what it looked like to me. That would never happen from a bullet entering the rear of the President's head.

Further, if the Secret Service was firing from the rear of the car at a target ahead of the car, where was the intended target, if not on the grassy knoll?

Edit in bold. Edited to add content.

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[–] Karl Aksel 9 years ago

Bullets make little holes going in, and big ones coming out.
Exactly. Which is why I think you should see the Zapruder film again. Here in slow motion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU83R7rpXQY

Here it is quite obvious that the skull explodes forwards, from an entry wound to the back of the skull. And that is also in line with the autopsy report.

Do you think that the First Lady didn't grab a piece of President Kennedy's head off the trunk lid and fetch it back inside the passenger compartment? That's sure what it looked like to me.
What film were you watching? She tried to climb out of the car, but was urged back by a Secret Service agent. That's certainly what it looks like to me, and I didn't see her picking up anything. What on earth would she want to pick up bits of bloody skull for, anyway?