First of all, using the word "guarantee" was completely irrelevant to the point that causality as such exists presently.
No, it was not irrelevant, you used it for a reason. Your argument was one thing would follow another "only by chance" and there'd be no guarantee the same thing would happen as predicted. I countered that there is no such guarantee and you've been trying to make it about temporality ever since.
But the temporality of gasoline or of fire is irrelevant. The "rules" or "laws" of nature is that consequences, the patterns, are predictable, that's what science is all about. That's the causality you're talking about, yes?
My point was that science ASSUMES that causality. That the patterns of reality are solid, for lack of a better term.
Saying that if things were as I say they are (e.g. that "purpose" is just in the human imagination) then "one thing would follow another only by chance" is really saying nothing at all since that's not giving what chance would be and what order would be and how the non-existence of what I'm saying doesn't exist would mean the patterns of reality would not be as they are now.
In short:
I don't see how taking "purpose" out of the equation means now things happen "only by chance" whereas if we leave it in the equation fits the reality we live in.
Second of all, you thought you made some kind of counterpoint to the entirety of the post which contained the above quote, or the ones that preceded it, by pointing out that there is no guarantee that the laws of logic and such causality would hold tomorrow, three weeks, three years, three million years or longer from now, etc., which is precisely making it into an issue about temporaility, as if issues about guarantees concerning the future mattered at all to the content concerning purpose/aim/ends, e.g., teleology, that had been discussed.And there you go again, trying to make it about temporality even though I keep explaining how it isn't.
Temporality is about past, present and future. Not about the universe simply tossing out the rulebook without warning or cause and unraveling into chaos.
In other words:
Temporality is about things changing over time. Not that we don't know everything about how time and space and everything else works.
"Need" is just a fiction. As is "should", "must", "value" and "importance".
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