Woody Leonard: Case against Win 10 Anniversary Update grows

Hell, now that you mention the...

"There are very credible reports that the Anniversary Update is making entire volumes/drives invisible, prompting a reformat."

ill bet that's what happened with my 160GB external hard drive (as i plugged it in and basically nothing happened and checking it with Disk Management has the whole RAW thing if i recall correctly). but i kinda assumed something went wrong with the drive so i just said screw it and reformatted it as i don't think anything TOO important was on it. but at least i now know it was no random fluke with the drive being deleted out of no where like i thought what happened (which i assumed was rare to as i never had it happen before).

but after reading that ill bet it was the Anniversary Update that did it. but thankfully all of my other hard drives (internal/external) are fine.

still, that looks quite bad on Microsoft for them to be the cause of potential data deletion as even though technically the update does not delete any data it would be very easy for it to delete it if your not careful and choose the format option on the drive that had the issue.

i just wish i would have ran the drive on that old linux PC (running Lubuntu v16.04.1) i got first. but then again i just never thought something this serious would slip by on a major OS update like this so it never crossed my mind (if some of my internal drives would have disappeared after the update i might have pieced it together that it was the update that caused it). it's pretty safe to say that's a fairly big WTF moment.

o well, i guess random things are bound to happen when Microsoft is into new territory with OS upgrades periodically which they basically never did in the past. so i guess this is pretty much a learning process for them and sadly the public is pretty much beta testing it for them. but at least they got that whole insider thing for many people who want to test software prior to general public release, which should help minimize most bugs, but even that apparently slipped past those testers.


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Hell, now that you mention the...

"There are very credible reports that the Anniversary Update is making entire volumes/drives invisible, prompting a reformat."

ill bet that's what happened with my 160GB external hard drive (as i plugged it in and basically nothing happened and checking it with Disk Management has the whole RAW thing if i recall correctly). after reading that ill bet it was the Anniversary Update that did it.

o well, i guess random things are bound to happen when Microsoft is into new territory with OS upgrades periodically which they basically never did in the past. so i guess this is pretty much a learning process for them and sadly the public is pretty much beta testing it for them. but at least they got that whole insider thing for many people who want to test software prior to general public release, which should help minimize most bugs, but even that apparently slipped past those testers. - m-slovak79

The problem is Microsoft is rushing out the equivalents of Service Packs and largely taking away the ability of users to decide when to install them. I remember when Windows XP SP3 was released, I waited a good long time before I installed it just so I could be sure all the bugs were worked out beforehand.

Microsoft has cut back on their own internal testers, and is, as you say, using the public as beta testers. Their quality control has suffered. Another example is the July 2016 update rollup (KB3172605) for Windows 7, which is nothing but a bug-fixed version of the June 2016 update (KB3161608).

Yeah, their own internal testers are probably better at finding bugs that the masses will probably stumble into that the more limited average joe beta testers can't seem to find when they are on the fast/slow rings etc (basically they just don't have the sheer volume of users so problems probably don't turn up with the best testers that will with the masses) that anyone can join if they want to i think.

also, i am pretty sure i found another issue with the Anniversary Update in that i got this USB 2.0 card multi-card reader and when i put it into the computers USB port you can hear Windows make that sound that it makes when new hardware is recognized but nothing else happens whether i got a memory card in the card reader or not. but when i do have a card in the reader and try to load up 'Disk Management' just to see if Windows see's anything on that device or not it is basically stuck on that disk scanning part and never seems to go any further (i can still close the program like usual though with no issues as it's not freezing the computer or hanging the program) but if i remove the card reader from the USB port while that Disk Management screen is loading everything quickly loads up like normal and shows my hard drives etc as expected.

i got another card reader that works perfectly fine though right now with that same memory card that won't work in the device i described above with the issues. i should try it (the card reader that don't work with Windows 10 after this update as it was working not long ago so i doubt the card reader is faulty) in another PC so i can be certain the card reader is working but i am pretty sure it will be fine.

but it makes me wonder if clean installing Windows 10 (with the new anniversary update already in there) will fix these random glitches or not. i would rather avoid it (as it's time consuming), but if it's going to help it's probably worth it for me to do it. what i might do is image my boot drive (C partition) and clean install and test out the USB card that's currently not working and see what happens. if it's fixed ill probably just reinstall a bunch of apps programs and and that should keep things nice and stable/working but if not i can just restore the current stuff i am using now. but then again i might just wait it out and see if MS releases some fixes through Windows Update in the near future as it's not critical i get the USB card reader working again but it would be nice to have as it's just the thought of Windows 10 not working with something that it should as it gets you wondering what else is messed up since the update that i might just not have noticed yet.

but outside of those issues everything else seems great.

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i am pretty sure i found another issue with the Anniversary Update (with my) USB 2.0 card multi-card reader.

but it makes me wonder if clean installing Windows 10 (with the new anniversary update already in there) will fix these random glitches or not. i would rather avoid it (as it's time consuming), but if it's going to help it's probably worth it for me to do it. - m-slovak79

If I were in your situation, I wouldn't do that. A latter update may fix the problem. Or perhaps some workaround will come to light. Good luck!

If I were in your situation, I wouldn't do that. A latter update may fix the problem. Or perhaps some workaround will come to light. Good luck!

Yeah, ill most likely do what you say simply because it's not a major issue and it's quite time consuming reinstalling everything from scratch and reconfiguring everything to my liking (which i just did not all that long ago due to my OS getting taken out on my SSD from power outage(which has never happened before to me which ill assume is a fluke)).

my guess it is will be a while before MS releases some fixes as it will probably take them a while to find all of the more major issues people are having like computers not booting and that whole hard drive thing showing up as not formatted etc. hopefully they learn their lesson so the next major update in 2017 don't cause all of the drama this current upset is causing as if that continues into the foreseeable future it's going to cause people to avoid major updates like the plague ;)

but on a side note... i was messing with the card reader and out of the roughly 10 times i removed it from the computer and tried again one time it popped up showing the files on the card but it basically still don't work as it shows that the card reader is connected sometimes with the 'Eject USB2.0 Device' (like how you click that USB icon for properly ejecting USB devices in general to ensure no data corruption when you physically remove the USB device from the USB port) and other times it does not show anything is connected. but with all of this said i sorta want to see if it works on that old 1.2ghz PC i had from 2001 that's running Lubuntu linux on it. but it probably won't be easy as being the card reader that's acting up is compact and might be difficult to put into the rear USB port on the back of it with the memory card in it to etc. where as the card reader i got that does work fine on Windows 10 would be much easier to test on the old PC then the one that's currently not working on Windows 10 as it's got a cable that can slide into the USB port easier and the bulkier device that actually reads the cards is connected to the other end of the cable away from the computer. just makes it easier to connect to any random USB port vs the card reader that's currently not working since it's more compact in terms of immediate entry into the USB port area.

p.s. i know the core OS is fine because i ran the 'sfc /scannow' from command prompt (which checks system files etc) and it says everything is good. so i don't have to worry about any OS integrity problems.

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Hmm, I'm currently running Windows 10 64-bit Professional Edition (upgraded from Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate Edition), and haven't heard of this "Anniversary Edition" upgrade.

My suggestion is to do what I do: Defer upgrades if the option is available. That way, once the bugs are fixed, you can update your system accordingly.

I don't use Cortana, BTW. That was disable soon after I had installed Win 10.

type in "about your pc" (without the ") in the area you can type in the bottom left area on Windows 10 and it should highlight 'about your PC(with system settings)' and select that and what does it say for OS Build on the page that it loads up?

if it says... 'OS Build 14393.10' you are already on the Anniversary Update which was release Aug 2nd 2016. if you see 10586.xxx your not on the anniversary update.

another way you can tell is by the way start menu looks as the new way is more refined/better.

p.s. also, with Windows 10 Pro you have more control over upgrades but the regular Home edition has less control over them. i got Windows 10 x64 Pro to.

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I use Winaero Tweaker to either block updates for Win 10 or set them to notify before download.

http://winaero.com/

This is why I am now converting many of my PCs to the Linux distro Zorin, and the only ones not yet done are due to unique Windows OS programs. Once I find ways to run them and have a viable network they'll be changed as well.

Microsoft is almost as bad as the US government bureaucracy in that it has too may heads running things and rushing into untested crap, and not connected to any arms.