Was actually VERY impressed. I have an Audi S5 that's modified to scoot along pretty quickly, but the Jag was a BEAST. I stopped in there on a whim, but I'm seriously considering making the switch before I spend any more $$ upgrading my S5. . . Anyone have any useful thoughts?
shareJags are at the bottom of the barrel reliability-wise, right alongside Land Rover, Mini and Bimmer. And while Audis aren't exactly at Lexus levels, they're still better than Jag!
Given the choice, I'd stick with the Audi.
That said, have you tried the 911? In the $100k coupe class, it's heads and heals above either of your two prospects.
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I've been doing some research on that - Jaguar is still fighting the bad reputation they built up regarding reliability, but they've move up a lot since they were bought from Ford.
I wouldn't put Audi below Lexus based on personal experience. Have had both, and the Lexus was not nearly as nice a car after 3 years of TLC, while the Audis I've had have held up much longer. I also have an issue with a "luxury" brand that was just given a different badge by Toyota and made into a luxury brand because the commercials say so. Audi has a long, rich history of making impressive cars. I'm not really a big fan of them being so closely related to VW, either. I've owned and driven VW's, but their quality has declined a lot in the last few years. My main issue with Audi is that they build sporty cars but they aren't conducive to being used that way - the dealerships will red flag cars that have ECU flashes and void the entire warranty, which is not how most performance car companies do things.
I went to Porsche before I went anywhere else, and I walked out surprisingly not as impressed as I thought I'd be. . . to get the car I'd want, I'd have to spend closer to $200K and that's a little out of my range.
My main issue with Audi is that they build sporty cars but they aren't conducive to being used that way - the dealerships will red flag cars that have ECU flashes and void the entire warranty
I think most sports car companies do that these days. Certainly if I were building a sports car, I'd program the ECU to log things like how much time the engine was run at different rev ranges and how often the oil and coolant were changed - things like that.
I've heard that Lotus actually breaks the rev range into 500rpm bands and then records the time the engine spends in each range and any dealer can download the full log and see if the car was driven by a hooligan.
I suspect that also have a way to record how often the car is abused (i.e. running the engine at high revs before it has reached operating temperature).
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Actually, that's been part of my research lately - I've been talking to dealership service managers everywhere I've gone - and Porsche and Jaguar, for example, don't care what you do to the car as long as that upgrade doesn't cause problems. If it does, they just won't fix that particular problem - they won't red flag you like Audi does. . .
shareYou mean if you rev the nuts off an Audi engine they'll void the entire warranty and refuse to fix anything? Even something unrelated to the engine?
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No, I mean if you make a change to the computer (which I did), they won't fix your suspension or A/C if they detect it. Some dealerships will work with you and won't run a full scan on the car if you ask them not to, but most will. . .
shareOh, you mean if you "chip" the car?
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Yeah. I believe it's usually called flashing now because it's usually done using a cable off of a laptop. It's one of the primary things you want to do to a car to make it faster because it also enhances whatever mechanical parts you upgrade as well.
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