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Brooks, what if?


Shocking flicker of self awareness from a lefty.

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/opinion/brooks-what-if-were-the-bad-guys-here/


My response.

1. It's not a meritocracy. THe results of your classes efforts show that.

2. And it clearly is a witch hunt.

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It shouldn’t be a “what if”….based on all the historical evidence of their actions and behavior …"they are the bad guys".

They lecture us about being open minded and embracing people’s differences when they have demonstrated the exact opposite….they are frauds and deranged hypocrites.

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And assholes. And criminals. And violent thugs. ect. ect. ect.

I'm sure this report will have no impact. They are also stupid.

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The communist Democrat pedophile party will exploit whatever means necessary to push the agenda. The agenda that is more political power for the elites and the party, and thus more communism, and more enslaved people.

They are a cancer that must be eradicated. Voting in rigged elections isn’t going to cut it.

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My response: liberals didn't create the elitist meritocracy.

One of the preeminent conservative voices of my lifetime, William F Buckley, used to argue that only landowners should have the right to vote.

Conservative lawfirms and financec houses are filled with Harvard, Yale and Princeton grads.

Conservatives dominate the elite country clubs.

DJ Trump constantly brags about his high IQ, great genes and Warton education.

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Who created it is irrelevant.

The question hinted at the the article, though poorly stated, is could it be that the working class Trump supporters, instead of being motivated by evul wacism, could they have legitimate, policy issues as interests motivating them and their support of Trump?




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Who created it is very relevant! Conservatives, historically and presently, support rich people and large businesses. Liberals tend to support common folks. I listed Democratic policies in detail:
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/64ca842f1213ed165d28188e/Proof-that-Gun-Owners-Are-Wimpy?reply=64d0435b373e833047032758

Both FDRs New Deal & Johnson's War on Poverty helped increase the middle-class and lower the percentage of poor from the 1940s-1970s.

But, starting in the 1970s, the rich began to successfully fight back through the Republican party with lower taxes for the rich, business and banking deregulation, fewer consumer protections and unions, fewer government services, no minimum raise hikes, etc.. This allowed the rich to become much richer and everyone else to lose economic ground from 1970-present!

Economic insecurity has always fed extremist movements like Nazism and Trumpism because voters search for a strongman, aka dictator, to protect and save them. Part of their messaging is to create enemies to scapegoat and unite against - us vs them. Racism has always been used as part of the divide and conquer strategy.

Trump policies helped the rich. Not the struggling working-class who pay more in taxes than Trump's rich family. But, he's good at manipulating ignorant people and telling them what they want to hear.

"Poverty By America" by Matthew Desmond discusses your topic about how government policies are designed to help the middle-class instead of the poor/working-class. It's very enlightening!

author: "we subsidize affluence" youtube interview:
https://youtu.be/95we_UcQh2I?t=266

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1. The article raised a number of points, none of them are impacted by WHO created the system. That is a red herring. YOu are a faggot.

2. I am happy to discuss various ways the middle class have been negatively impacted. The point HERE is that the impact is real and being concerned about it is valid. and those like yourself that dismiss that, are full of shit.

3. Your opinon on Trump policies are without value.

4. There is nothing radical about Trump or his pollcies. You even mentioning nazis in this context is you revealing yourself to be a faggot and a coward. Go fuck yourself.

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Your ad hominem attacks = your surrender

You presented zero facts or source material for rebuttal = your surrender

Trump did nothing for you in 4 years! You do nothing to help yourself. You're poor and a whiny loser!

1. Conservatives help the rich elite which I proved. They always lower their own taxes and cut services for everyone. Your anti-LGBTQI slur changes nothing.

2. You're a cultist who blindly follows your cult leader.

3. You believe 2 impeachments and 3 indictments, refusing to leave office, inciting an insurrection which killed cops, attempting to kill the vice president are "not radical". That's why you are a cultist!

Trumpism = wannabe Nazism

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Dude. You call me/us nazis and then whine like a fag because of MY "ad hominen"? Go fuck yourself.


Point remains. Our concerns are valid. The problem is you guys are willfully blind and assholes.

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You're deflecting with ad hominem attacks instead of direct rebuttal to my comments.

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Why would anyone want to directly rebuttal so many of your lies?

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Said the faggot that called us nazis. Fuck off.


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Your ad hominem attacks = Your surrender

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YOu calling us nazis, was YOUR ad hominem attack and thus your surrender.


That you pretend otherwise, is you being a faggot on top of you being a loser.

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You presented zero facts or source material for rebuttal to any of my earlier arguments which were complete with links and book sources.

Your grade school ad hominem attacks to my earlier post = your surrender

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That you disagree with republican policies is irrelevant to teh discussion of the percieved self interest and motives of the working class.

That you called us nazis was nothing but an ad hominem personal attack, and I responded appropriately.


That you called names and then pretended that my responding in kind was a "me" problem was you being a troll asshole.

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Your grade school ad hominem attacks = your surrender

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Said the retard that called people nazis, for no reason. Go fuck yourself.

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Funny how Nazis are in your political party.
https://www.cbsnews.com/tampa/news/neo-nazi-demonstration-outside-disney-world-tampa-bay-organizations-react/

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Neo-nazis irrelevant fringe. Teh only peopole giving them oxygen, is lefties like you.

You are an asshoel for smearing good people with the bullshit smear nazis, for no reason.

Go fuck yourself.

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"A Jan. 6 raider got a state regulator job from Ron DeSantis."

"A man with a Nazi flag rammed into barriers outside the White House, while the Department of Homeland Security confirmed the Allen, Texas, shooter's neo-Nazi ideology, warning he is part of a growing trend."

"And what Target pulling Pride merchandise from its shelves after threats says about extremist far-right's fixation with the LGBTQ community."

"DHS also issued an advisory bulletin Wednesday warning the U.S. remains in a "heightened threat environment." "
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/05/26/ran-desantis-sandra-atkinson-what-we-know/70256211007/

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Dude. Don't be silly. What happens is that you make stupid claims, I grill you for weeks as you weasle back and forth like a fag that accidently used jalapeno flavored lube,

becasue they are an irrelevant fringe. All you have is other leftards panic mongering and no hard numbers to back up your whinging.


That you would smear republicans with this, is you being a pussy. Go fuck youself.

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Truth hurts you.

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Ok lets do it.

Keelai, how many neo-nazis are in this country?

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Ask your friends to begin counting. Don't forget to include yourself.

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i'm zero kind of socialist, AND I have no problem with the jews, or Poland.

So, once again, all you have, is shit talk.

See the thing is, you CAN'T find any hard numbers on how many there are in the country.

People like you suppress the numbers, so that you can talk shit about them being signficiant.


IN the real world, this nation has had a bi-partisan consensus for equality for blacks since the mid 60s, supported by both parties, both parties voters, law, policy, and practice. There has been no significant opposition on the national level.

Only a complete shit talker would pretend otherwise.

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More denial about racism and fascism from a racist fascist. No surprise!

You already wrote in another post that you refuse to accept science.

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Err, so you accuse me of being a racist fascist, and I denied it, correct.

Sooooo, you pointing out that I denied it, is not proof that I am what you said.

You do realize that right? YOu really are NOT THAT retarded, are you?

Wait, are you denying that this nation has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for blacks since the mid 60s?

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Your ad hominem attacks = your surrender

You presented zero facts or source material for rebuttal = your surrender

Trump did nothing for you in 4 years! You do nothing to help yourself. You're poor and a whiny loser!

1. Conservatives help the rich elite which I proved. They always lower their own taxes and cut services for everyone. Your anti-LGBTQI slur changes nothing.

2. You're a cultist who blindly follows your cult leader.

3. You believe 2 impeachments and 3 indictments, refusing to leave office, inciting an insurrection which killed cops, attempting to kill the vice president are "not radical". That's why you are a cultist!

Trumpism = wannabe Nazism

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1. FUck you.

2. Fuck you .

3. Trump helped me plenty. And I'm doing fine.

4. He has hte best poliicies on offer.

5. The way that hte left has weaponized government to try to arrest their enemies? Yes, that is radical.

6. Trumpism, or America Firist is just sanity in an insane world. Fuck off clown troll.

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"Trump helped me plenty."

How?

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Wages rising. Especially working class wages.

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Trump specifically called your boss to give you a pay raise on your job?

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You asked a question I answered.

Deal with the answer or not. Dont just post to post like a retarded child vomiting bile.

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It sounds like you didn't get any raise.

Furthermore, you're not doing well financially if you're only working-class. Trump promised well-paying jobs to make you middle-class.

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That shows a real.... lack of understanding of finances.

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That shows a real.... lack of understanding of finances.

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17 Damn Lies.

How much are they paying you for each lie?

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The Commie FDR that extended the Depression with Wage and Price controls! Which P E Trudeau copied anyway!

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The rich were against all of FDRs programs, not just the one to control inflation. Only Republican sources are saying FDRs programs extended the Depression and it's considered revisionist history by legitimate nonpartisan sources.

Depression Era:
1. 25% unemployment
2. Wage income fell 42.5% between 1929 and 1933.
3. Farm prices fell so drastically that many farmers lost their homes and land. Many went hungry.

Are you against any of these current FDR programs?

Social Security, Medicare, FDIC, 40 hour work week, minimum wage, worker's compensation, unemployment compensation, SEC, FDA, banning child labor

Every single one helps average Americans. The rich don't need any of them because they have excessive money and they want to exploit workers with cheap wages and long hours with no overtime.

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"The question hinted at the the article, though poorly stated, is could it be that the working class Trump supporters, instead of being motivated by evul wacism, could they have legitimate, policy issues as interests motivating them and their support of Trump?"

Except that they generally agree with policies of the Democrats and don't realize that the policies of the Republicans have created the economic problems they are complaining about. There is no logic to working class people supporting Republicans. They may hear what they want to hear from Republicans but they aren't even listening to Democrats because they have been led to believe that Democrats, 1) are communists (they aren't) and 2) want to make white people a minority (they don't, but they also don't share that fear). They don't realize that the information they are getting is sponsored by the big corporate interests that are creating the inequities in their lives and profiting from damaging the environment.

Racist fears are the glue that holds this together.

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THe fact that you disagre with us on policy and/or our precieved interests is irrelevant.


That you take YOUR conclusion about our interests and then ignore ours, and then use that... assumption as the grounds for reaching the same conclusion, ie

"racist fears".


Is just you dismissing EVERYTHING and repeating your initial premise.


Do you think you are smarter than the typical trump supporter?

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Considering that you have to be an idiot to still support Trump, it's not a very high bar.

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You say that, but then you insist that the only possibly reason for someone to reach a different conclusion than you, is ill intent.


For purposes of discussion, let's move this from all trump supporters to just ME, and pretend that I am stupiod...


Ok now, I am stupid, and just don't have the brain power to reach "correct" conclusions regarding my interests, ie the same ones you reach, cause you love me so much and look out for me.


BUT, I am sincere in my beliefs, and trusting in my limited intellect.


Sooooooo, if I really think that say.... dems are commies, and that they hate me, those are "real" concerns in that I really believe them.


THUS, why do you pile on, the "racist fears" shit?


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If someone is sincere in their beliefs but their beliefs are wrong, they are wrong.

The question is, why are they sincere about a belief that is demonstrably untrue- e.g. the 2020 election was stolen from Trump because of voter fraud? That the Covid vaccine had killed more people than the covid virus. That climate change is a hoax?

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