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Things That REALLY Piss Me Off: Meat-eaters Being Referred to as Vegans


This happens a lot with female models and actresses. The assumption is, 'Oh, they're beautiful and fit. They must be vegan.'

I just saw an article about a wealthy beauty queen that referred to her as vegan. I smelled something fishy (no pun intended) because she was clearly a Republican girl, and they're rarely vegan, even for health reasons, and lo and behold, contrary to the stupid article that suggested she was 'giving tips on vegan diets via her Instagram page', I see that she has made various posts over the last *couple* of years highlighting her diet, which includes *fish and chicken*.

Sorry, but NO. Fish and chicken aren't vegan. They're not even vegetarian. Heck, if she eats chicken, she couldn't even call herself a pescitarian FFS.

As a GENUINE bona fide VEGAN, who hasn't eaten meat for 31 years, and hasn't consumed ANY dairy or any animal-based foods, like honey, for about 13 years, it really pisses me off when I see non-vegans described as vegans.

I know what it's about. It's more simping BS (or, in this case, since the article was a right-wing source, right-wing anti-simping, which, from a left-wing perspective, comes across as simping). It's perpetuating MORE LIES that beautiful blonde women are better than dark swarthy men like me, even though the TRUTH is that I live a VEGAN diet, and I know MANY beautiful blonde bimbos who don't. 😠

STOP FUCKING SIMPING. I'm fed up with my VIRTUE being undermined due to false narratives and blatant LIES about pretty white women who don't make half the fucking sacrifices I do.

I'm tired of being framed as the 'bad guy' because I'm a white straight man, when the reality is, I live a FAR MORE virtuous and progressive lifestyle than most other people, of any race, gender or sexuality, especially spoiled overprivileged blonde white girls, who are FAR better-off than me, but are simped over due to their gender and their fucking prettiness. 😠 It's WRONG.

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I agree.

Nice to know you Harvey since I am also vegan and have been for quite a few years.
I lost count but it has been a long time.

Nice to see that I may have a fellow vegan colleague on this board since we are a rare species and we are always right in what we say because it is based on fact and not opinion.

I refuse to think that anything animals based is, "food" because those were animals and animals are not meant to be eaten.
So yeah, dead fish and dead chicken is meat.

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I was expecting to be criticised for my weird rant, so I appreciate the positive feedback.

And yeah, whilst I don't consider myself to be massively softhearted when it comes to animals (although I do generally like animals), I couldn't imagine ever eating an animal again (especially after 31 years). The thought of treating another living, breathing, sentient creature as 'food', really bugs me in principle. I just find it bizarre.

That said, I can totally understand why certain cultures (like, say, Inuits) must eat meat, due to the scarcity of alternative food sources (however, that doesn't apply to most of us in the West), and I don't begrudge anyone who eats another creature where they are in a desperate situation where there is no other choice (who knows what I'd have done if I were part of the Uruguayan rugby team whose plane crashed in The Andes).

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I was recently called an idiot for correcting someone who referred to a person who ate eggs as a vegan. I kept repeating to them that vegans don't eat eggs, and he kept telling me that vegans are people who don't eat meat and fish.

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This would probably get more hits in General Discussion.

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Thank you for the advice.

I recently got criticised for putting a thread about artistic awards in 'General Discussion', and not 'Politics', so I don't know what to believe, and so I thought it was the cautious thing to post this in 'Politics'.

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I never understood how fish was ok for vegans. Crazy, they don't feel any pain I guess. There are people in Japan eating fish alive and they think the creature suffering somehow makes the meal more tasteful, when the truth is they are just sadistic.
I'm not vegan but I did give up hunting because it was not a healthy outdoors activity. Now I just do trapping with mostly snares and bear traps, but I catch and release.

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The point is, people who eat fish *aren't* vegans. They aren't even vegetarians. And if they identify that way, they're lying.

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Agreed.

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TL;DR
Vegan: Excludes all meat and animal products (meat, poultry, fish, seafood, dairy and eggs)

Vegetarian: Excludes meat, poultry, fish and seafood. However, there are a few variations of a vegetarian diet that depend on whether you eat or exclude eggs, dairy and fish.

Flexitarians: Eat meat β€œoccasionally”, but their focus is on eating mainly plant-based, often for health reasons.

https://blog.ohiohealth.com/vegetarian-vs-vegan-vs-pescatarian-vs-flexitarian/

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I don't see how anyone who eats fish can claim to be a vegetarian of any sort, but of course vegetarians generally eat dairy, or at least some form of adult products that don't require the direct slaughter of the animals concerned, which is what sets them apart from vegans.

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It's like religion and gender, people choose what they wanna be/do, tweak it a bit from the norm then classify it as something else or a variation of it.

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It's insulting to those of us who are ethical vegans who believe that veganism should be about a commitment to avoiding all animal-based products.

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I must live a sheltered life. I didn't realize people were confused about veganism.

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I suspect it's a mistake/assumption on the part of the entities in question, rather than confusion about the definition of veganism per se (i.e. another indictment on the poor state of today's journalism, and the lack of proper research that goes in to many 'stories')

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Why not make an exception for honey? Humans and bees have a symbiotic relationship and need eachother to survive. Bees pollinate our food and we prop up their declining population through apiculture. Without bees, our agriculture industry would collapse. Plus, there's plenty to go around. The bees use what they need and we get to enjoy the surplus.

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