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A mother in Texas was furious when her 7-year-old brought home papers to be filled out by her.

The forms asked for identifying information like fingerprints, moles, etc. in case her child's face was blown-off by an assault rifle.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/child-brought-home-horrifying-pamphlet-123010060.html

It's time to choose sanity over gun manufacturers' profits. No other Westernized country tolerates their young children dying in gun shootings.

#1 cause of death for American children is guns!

The mother said the form can be used to find missing children, too. Neither should kidnappings be normalized.

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Only a homo commie anti-gun nut would speculate it was for determining in case a face was blown off. It is needed because of the liberal lawyers and there all out money grubbing lawsuits against towns that more is needed before asking a parent to go see if a body is a relative.Ask some parent that is in the pocket of a liberal to view a body and it not be a relative there will be lawsuits.
And Beto deservingly lost so the Uvalde will be not a press thing anymore.

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"more is needed before asking a parent to go see if a body is a relative."

And you think identifying a 7-year-old's faceless body is normal!

You're an extremist who doesn't understand that most Americans, including Republicans, want common sense gun laws.

Continue your ongoing support for deranged teens entering elementary schools with body armor, military-style rifles and 700 rounds of ammo!

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Only homo Beto talked about a faceless body without showing proof there was one. But he has books to sell to the sheep.

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"homo"
I notice you're obsessed with homosexuality like another poster observed months ago.

"sheep"
That's a QAnon term.

And you're an Alex Jones disciple, too!

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All lies, nothing but lies, as usual.

No republican supports "common sense gun laws", which is liberal code for sweeping bans and restrictions on civilian ownership. Which is the road to tyranny. No thanks. Stay in Canada.

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"A law prohibiting gun possession by those convicted of a domestic violence crime has the highest support among gun owners (78 percent). Republican gun owners support that measure at the same level. Republican respondents also supported prohibiting gun possession by people subject to a domestic violence restraining order (75 percent) and requiring background checks for concealed carry permits (71 percent)."
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/19/gun-owners-support-safety-policies-00062335

CANADA HAS FEW GUN DEATHS.
TYRANNY IS IN THE U.S. WITH MAGA NUTS RUNNING AMOK!!!

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This is part of the National Child Identification Program and has been in place for a long time. I remember doing the fingerprinting part in the 90s. It's an important tool in case a child is kidnapped/goes missing.

I can understand it can be scary for a parent, but looking it up, 460,000 kids go missing each year.

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Insanity normalized. Dental records, DNA, and moles are used to identify a dead child.

My parents' generation slept with their doors unlocked and it was safe for children to play outside by themselves. It's still that way in some countries outside of the U.S.. Even my generation walked to school, played outside, and went to the store solo as young children.

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That form was started in the 90s as a part of the National Child Identification Program. It has much less to do with gun violence than a protection method primarily in case they're abducted, or suffer other similar atrocities. So now you're against protection of kids?

https://childidprogram.com/program-history/

Maybe research the subject of an article before posting about it and offering such ridiculous leaps of logic. In fact, this board as a whole on both sides of the aisle is getting more and more absurd by the day, which is why I rarely post here anymore. Wise up and do better.
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"in case they're abducted, or suffer other similar atrocities."

Insanity normalized! That's my point!! You're very cavalier about it as if it's perfectly normal.

I already addressed that in my OP:
"The mother said the form can be used to find missing children, too. Neither should kidnappings be normalized."

It was safe for me to walk to school alone at 7 years old and I didn't grow up in "Mayberry".

Something is broken in this society. Stop accepting school shootings, child abductions and other abnormalities instead of addressing and fixing the social ills that are multiplying and growing worse. At some point, draw the line and say "No more!"

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Sorry, but that's an errant conclusion. Having protections in place does not render a situation "normalized". In fact, such protections have been put in place more and more over the past number of decades because awareness has increased as the information age has broadened in scope, shedding light onto such incidents on an increasingly larger scale. Until recently (prior to 2020) it was awareness of crime that had increased, not crime itself (of course with fluctuations year-to-year).

In reality, given like-for-like environments, it was no safer for us to walk to school alone decades ago than it would have been for a seven-year-old before 2020 (in certain regions). So, I don't agree that such protections "normalize", i.e. render acceptable, anything. No one is "accepting school shootings, child abductions and other abnormalities". No one (especially the Right, or “GOP”, the pundits of which harp on crime daily, if anything exaggerating it, whether for political reasons, heightened fear, or both).

Schools Are Safer Than They Were in the 90s, Despite School Shootings - News @ Northeastern
https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/02/26/schools-are-still-one-of-the-safest-places-for-children-researcher-says/

That all changed with the pandemic and everything that spawned from that worldwide scenario. But that's another discussion.

I would agree that such protections are an indicator that society in general is allowing themselves to be ruled by fear. But that’s the opposite of “normalizing”, or “accepting”. It more likely escalates awareness to an unhealthy level.
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Schools are not safer than the 1980s, 1970s, 1960s, 50s, 40s, etc.. School shootings did not occur. Bad behavior in my school was chewing gum during class and fighting. Kidnappings were extremely rare.

In 1997, this Danish mom left her toddler alone in the stroller outside a New York City restaurant while she drank inside. Perfectly normal behavior because children are safe in Denmark. She was arrested and went to jail.

"She says she was doing what any normal parents would have done in her native Denmark, where babies in strollers are left on sidewalks while their mothers and fathers shop and dine indoors.

Sørensen now says she wants to show the American public that the Danish system of parenting is healthier. 'People live in fear [in the US]. Children are not allowed to play in the playground alone,' said Sørensen. 'That's why it's important for me now to get [my book] into English, to show it's possible to live another way.'"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5117897/Mom-jailed-leaving-baby-OUTSIDE-restaurant-speaks-out.html

Similar situation with a Swedish mom in Massachusetts in 2011:

"A Swedish woman who police say left her baby unattended outside a Massachusetts restaurant while she ordered food inside was reported to a state agency for possible child maltreatment, officials said on Monday.

Police said they were summoned to the Bueno Y Sano eatery in the western Massachusetts college town of Amherst on Friday after the 1-year-old boy was left alone in his stroller on the sidewalk for about 10 minutes.

The woman, who authorities did not identify, said she “found nothing wrong with the situation” and that it was common in Sweden to leave young children alone outside a restaurant, said police."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-restaurant-baby/swedish-woman-who-left-baby-outside-restaurant-investigated-idUSTRE77E62O20110815

You normalized America's sickness.

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The sickness you're talking about is created and perpetuated by liberal policies. Your party is the one embracing pedophiles.....I'm sorry, "minor attracted persons".

If Europe is so great, you have my permission to go.

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'People live in fear [in the US]. Children are not allowed to play in the playground alone,' said Sørensen. 'That's why it's important for me now to get [my book] into English, to show it's possible to live another way.'"
Completely agree with this. But that's the opposite of "accepting". In fact, most of what you just quoted fully supports my argument, that the problem isn't that anyone is accepting violence and crime, i.e. adopting a blasé' attitude and becoming indifferent to the possibility of it, but that to the contrary many are exaggerating it, living in amplified fear.

But yes, there has been a growing sickness (and not just in the U.S.) for a while now, and I don't find it normal at all. I deem it the product of a society full of people who were raised with less and less discipline generationally, replaced by inwardly-focused worldviews of selfishness that diminish the value of human life in lieu of one's own self-interest.

That situation has been recently exacerbated by an increasing number of people who have forgotten how to...
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"there has been a growing sickness"

THAT'S NORMALIZATION.

IT STARTS WITH NO SCHOOL GUN MASSACRES. THEN THE FIRST HAPPENS AND EVERYONE IS SHOCKED. THEN, ANOTHER AND PEOPLE ARE STILL SHOCKED. THEN, ANOTHER AND LESS SHOCKED.
MORE SHOOTINGS = ROUTINE.

SCHOOLS TEACH CHILDREN HOW TO BEHAVE DURING SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AKA: LOCKDOWN.

I BET SCHOOL CHILDREN IN SWEDEN AND DENMARK AREN'T TAUGHT WHAT TO DO DURING SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND IT'S STILL SAFE TO LEAVE BABIES OUTSIDE WHILE THE MOTHER SHOPS OR GETS A DRINK.

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I see what you're trying to say, but you're confused. By your definition preparation, knowledge and practiced skillsets to help someone survive a potentially lethal situation as opposed to being an ignorant, vulnerable victim = acceptance and normalization of bad behavior. When to the contrary, although it may be "normalizing" a response (i.e. getting better and more proficient at it since practice makes perfect) to that bad behavior, it's doing the opposite of normalizing the bad behavior itself, which exhibits different indicators. Accepting the bad behavior as normal would entail living with it without responding to it, without preparing for it. For example, seeing a classmate getting gunned down and instead of being frightened laughing it off and going for a latte with friends, or calling mass destructive riots "mostly peaceful", or letting criminals out of jail unpunished without bail, etc., i.e. presenting such behaviors as normal/acceptable. Does women undergoing self-defense training "normalize" or make "acceptable" men assaulting women?

I BET SCHOOL CHILDREN IN SWEDEN AND DENMARK AREN'T TAUGHT WHAT TO DO DURING SCHOOL SHOOTINGS

That's a losing bet: https://www.rt.com/news/164764-sweden-educate-teachers-shooting/
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"Stop Normalizing Gun Violence"
https://www.scu.edu/ethics/all-about-ethics/stop-normalizing-gun-violence/

"The Normalization Of Gun Violence"
https://lbbusinessjournal.com/news/the-normalization-of-gun-violence

"The Normalization of Gun Violence"
https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/columnist/302643/the-normalization-of-gun-violence/

"The American tragedy of gun violence has long since become dangerously normalized."
https://www.montereycountyweekly.com/opinion/mcnow_intro/the-american-tragedy-of-gun-violence-has-long-since-become-dangerously-normalized/article_30ea112e-dbc7-11ec-afe4-036dedddcbdb.html

NORMALIZATION OF SOCIAL DEVIANCE DESTROYS A SOCIETY FROM WITHIN. NOEMOJI

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NORMALIZATION OF SOCIAL DEVIANCE DESTROYS A SOCIETY FROM WITHIN
Damn straight. Great quote! And although I have quibbles with a few details, every one of those articles supports my argument. I appreciate the assistance. Let's spread the word that treating any antisocial, deviant behavior, that only serves to harm others, i.e. anything that "normalizes" that harmful behavior, should be curtailed by any means, regardless of the implement or tool being utilized to perpetrate such heinous acts of violence.

From your second URL:
Even my cat knows this. After I adopted her, she systematically knocked over every item on my dresser each morning in a bid to get me out of bed to feed her. When I realized that complying was positive reinforcement, I gritted my teeth and bared disrupted sleep for a couple weeks until she got the hint.
Exactly. Not punishing bad behavior only enables an increase in bad behavior.
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It's NOT being curtailed. It's being normalized!!

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Diaper Joe literally told his mob to go kill Trump supporters. Until you denounce the son of a bitch and call for him to be locked up you have no moral authority in any situation

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Link?

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No link. You're a liar.

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Just listen to that disgusting speech he gave about “MAGA republicans” he told his mob to to kill them

As a result of Diaper Joes speech this disgusting act of domestic terrorism/murder happens: https://www.christianpost.com/news/north-dakota-man-charged-with-murder-in-death-of-18-year-old.html. He literally killed an 18 year old just for being a Republican

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"Diaper Joe literally told his mob to go kill Trump supporters."

STILL WAITING FOR YOUR LINK!

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I just gave you a link numb nuts. Diaper Joe inciting violence against anyone who didn’t vote for him. The Nazi bastard will then probably try to start up concentration camps

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"Diaper Joe literally told his mob to go kill Trump supporters."

STILL WAITING FOR THIS LINK!

You can't provide one because you're a liar!

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Just listen to the speech he gave, he said that “MAGA Republicans” were radicals and that’s giving the order to go kill them

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Nope!!! He never called MAGA Republicans radicals!

We must never forget: We, the people, are the true heirs of the American experiment that began more than two centuries ago.

We, the people, have burning inside each of us the flame of liberty that was lit here at Independence Hall — a flame that lit our way through abolition, the Civil War, Suffrage, the Great Depression, world wars, Civil Rights.

That sacred flame still burns now in our time as we build an America that is more prosperous, free, and just.

But as I stand here tonight, equality and democracy are under assault. We do ourselves no favor to pretend otherwise.

But first, we must be honest with each other and with ourselves.

Too much of what’s happening in our country today is not normal.

Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.

Now, I want to be very clear — (applause) — very clear up front: Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology.

I know because I’ve been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.

But there is no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans, and that is a threat to this country.

These are hard things.

But I’m an American President — not the President of red America or blue America, but of all America.

And I believe it is my duty — my duty to level with you, to tell the truth no matter how difficult, no matter how painful.

And here, in my view, is what is true: MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution. They do not believe in the rule of law. They do not recognize the will of the people.

They refuse to accept the results of a free election. And they’re working right now, as I speak, in state after state to give power to decide elections in America to partisans and cronies, empowering election deniers to undermine democracy itself.

MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards — backwards to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love.

They promote authoritarian leaders, and they fan the flames of political violence that are a threat to our personal rights, to the pursuit of justice, to the rule of law, to the very soul of this country.

They look at the mob that stormed the United States Capitol on January 6th — brutally attacking law enforcement — not as insurrectionists who placed a dagger to the throat of our democracy, but they look at them as patriots.

And they see their MAGA failure to stop a peaceful transfer of power after the 2020 election as preparation for the 2022 and 2024 elections.

They tried everything last time to nullify the votes of 81 million people. This time, they’re determined to succeed in thwarting the will of the people.

That’s why respected conservatives, like Federal Circuit Court Judge Michael Luttig, has called Trump and the extreme MAGA Republicans, quote, a “clear and present danger” to our democracy.

But while the threat to American democracy is real, I want to say as clearly as we can: We are not powerless in the face of these threats. We are not bystanders in this ongoing attack on democracy.

There are far more Americans — far more Americans from every — from every background and belief who reject the extreme MAGA ideology than those that accept it. (Applause.)

And, folks, it is within our power, it’s in our hands — yours and mine — to stop the assault on American democracy.

I believe America is at an inflection point — one of those moments that determine the shape of everything that’s to come after.

And now America must choose: to move forward or to move backwards? To build the future or obsess about the past? To be a nation of hope and unity and optimism, or a nation of fear, division, and of darkness?

MAGA Republicans have made their choice. They embrace anger. They thrive on chaos. They live not in the light of truth but in the shadow of lies.

But together — together, we can choose a different path. We can choose a better path. Forward, to the future. A future of possibility. A future to build and dream and hope.

And we’re on that path, moving ahead.

I know this nation. I know you, the American people. I know your courage. I know your hearts. And I know our history.

This is a nation that honors our Constitution. We do not reject it. (Applause.)

This is a nation that believes in the rule of law. We do not repudiate it. (Applause.)

This is a nation that respects free and fair elections. We honor the will of the people. We do not deny it. (Applause.)

And this is a nation that rejects violence as a political tool. We do not encourage violence.

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We are still an America that believes in honesty and decency and respect for others, patriotism, liberty, justice for all, hope, possibilities.

We are still, at our core, a democracy. (Applause.)

And yet history tells us that blind loyalty to a single leader and a willingness to engage in political violence is fatal to democracy.

For a long time, we’ve told ourselves that American democracy is guaranteed, but it’s not.

We have to defend it, protect it, stand up for it — each and every one of us.

That’s why tonight I’m asking our nation to come together, unite behind the single purpose of defending our democracy regardless of your ideology. (Applause.)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/09/01/remarks-by-president-bidenon-the-continued-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-nation/

MAGA chooses mob violence to overthrow democracy. Democrats choose to vote to maintain democracy!

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Liar https://www.npr.org/2022/09/02/1120798651/the-gop-reacts-to-president-bidens-speech-condemning-maga-republican-extremism

And no one on J6 tried to overthrow the government, you can’t overthrow the government with signs and baseball bats. The demokkkrats however are actively trying to overthrow the government and kill anyone who didn’t vote for Diaper Joe. They are the definition of extremism

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Once again, you're defending MAGA insurrectionists instead of condemning them. You're confirming everything Biden said about MAGA is true.

Writing liar and attaching an irrelevant link is silly. BTW, they agree with Biden about MAGA Republicans being a danger to democracy.

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No instead I am just not accepting your lies and false narratives while you continue to defend your cult leader telling his mob to go murder anyone who didn’t vote for him. The motherfucker and his cult followers should be locked up

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You have no "moral authority" in ANY situation, you ugly, pathetic liar.
You tell any stupid effing lie you dream up like you're effing God incarnate, but you're just another sick F like all the others.
Desperately lying to get paid the rubles you think you've earned with your shameless barking like a hungry dog left in the backyard of a family that's moved away.
Sick, disgusting liar.

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Yeah keep raging, it’s not going to make your lies and false narratives any less false

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"it’s not going to make your lies and false narratives any less true "



Oops! bit of a freudian slip there, eh?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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It’s called a typo dipshit, there i fixed it for you

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NOPE. IT'S A FREUDIAN SLIP.
A MAGA WHO TOLD THE TRUTH BY ACCIDENT.

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If you want to talk about slips there are complications of retarded comments your cult leader Diaper Joe has made of you really want to go there

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NOEMOJI

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It is a flash point.
Right now the U S also see Taiwan in stiff competition.

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Only way to stop it is to end US hegemony around the world. Once that all comes crashing down will another country take its place that has strict rules on weapons. Maybe China? kekekekek

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Other countries, including democracies, have common sense gun laws except the U.S. where the G.O.P. accepts bribes from gun manufacturers wishing to make profits no mattter the human cost.

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Like drunken lesbian slumber parties where they get on the phone and put random guys on the red flag list.

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"lesbian"

What's with your obsession about homosexuals?

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Why would a normal woman call up and put random guys on red flag.

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Beto deservingly lost so none of his moronic self-interest laws will get passed.

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Beto lost again.

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think your the same guy that was on here before. you just changed your name. know this because your an asshole like he was

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Nope. You're delusional and likely projecting since you're the one with a brand new account.

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