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NPR article about gun control and violence in the UK


https://www.npr.org/2022/06/01/1102239642/school-shooting-dunblane-massacre-uvalde-texas-gun-control

As Americans continue to reel from the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas that left 19 students and 2 teachers dead, headlines and commentators repeat a common refrain: The U.S is the only country where this happens.

Nowadays that may be true, but 26 years ago, it happened in Scotland. In March 1996, a gunman entered Dunblane Primary School, killing 16 students, a teacher, and injuring 15 others. To this day, it is the deadliest mass shooting in UK history.

But that's where the similarities end. In the aftermath of the shooting, parents in Dunblane were able to mobilize with the kind of effectiveness that has eluded American gun control activists. By the following year, Parliament had banned private ownership of most handguns, as well as semi-automatic weapons, and required mandatory registration for shotgun owners. There have been no school shootings in the U.K since then.

"The comparisons between the U.S. and Britain now should make shocking reading to anyone in America," says Mick North, whose five-year-old daughter, Sophie, was killed at Dunblane. He's one of the founding members of the group Gun Control Network, which advocated for new laws in the aftermath of the Dunblane shooting.

Over the past several years, England, Scotland and Wales combined have seen around thirty gun deaths a year. By comparison, according to the CDC, the number of murders involving firearms in the United States in 2020 was 19,384.

"Even setting aside the difference in the size of the country, that is a horrendous difference," says North.

At the time of the Dunblane shooting, he and other activists did face difficulties making their schools safer – including skepticism from members of the Royal Family. In an interview with the BBC, Prince Philip compared the banning of guns to the banning of cricket bats, saying that both had the potential for danger if misused. It's an argument that's similar to those made by the gun lobby in the United States.

"The criticism of others that these people might choose some other means of causing harm doesn't really acknowledge how very dangerous guns are compared with other weapons," says North. "It is too easy for somebody to pick up something like a gun and cause havoc within seconds and certainly within minutes."

The strong heritage of gun ownership in the U.S. – and the Constitutional right to bear arms – is an obstacle that British gun control activists like North didn't have to wrestle with in the aftermath of the Dunblane shooting. And yet, he sees other countries with similar histories which have successfully passed strict gun control measures.

"Yes, the whole culture around guns is different in the U.S. But there are other countries in the world where there's a frontier mentality - shall we say, Canada, Australia - who have adopted tighter controls over guns," North says. "So I think America should perhaps be comparing itself not necessarily with Britain alone but with a whole range of countries who have unfortunately experienced mass shootings but only a small number of them."

The radio version of this story was reported by Ari Shapiro, edited by Patrick Jarenwattananon, and produced by Taylor Hutchison. It was adapted for the web by Manuela Lopez Restrepo.

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"The U.S is the only country where this happens."

Only developed country. We are right on par with Brazil or Guadalajara, which says a lot.

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"The strong heritage of gun ownership in the U.S. – and the Constitutional right to bear arms – is an obstacle that British gun control activists like North didn't have to wrestle with in the aftermath of the Dunblane shooting. And yet, he sees other countries with similar histories which have successfully passed strict gun control measures.


And here is their issue. To correct this our gun culture is massive. It's huge even in anti gun Democrat areas. To fix this is far more easier said than done.

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If even Sandy Hook wasn't the catalyst for change, nothing ever will be.

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It does appear this time around raising the age limit to but a gun is gaining traction. I don't see this helping all that much but I can agree to it as long as those under 21 can still practice with guns before they turn 21.

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Has everyone forgotten that the US parted with European ideologies two and a half centuries ago??? We don't care about Europe. American has long stood as the singular symbol of freedom and liberty in the world. Now you think we're going to step back into the European model of government? No, we are not. We are going to remain free. At some point we will be able to shed the liberal ideologies that create these criminals in the first place, which should be our focus. Not on inanimate objects. If Europeans don't understand, they don't have to come here.

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There's a problem with your response: most European countries are also now free and beacons of liberty (perhaps even moreso than the U.S.)

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No they aren't. They're as free as their government allows them to be. Which means they aren't free.

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Guess which parts of Europe have mass murders with fully automatic weapons? And the religion of the shooters?

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And you now know why we are no longer controlled by euro-thrash.

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You mean trash, we love Euro-thrash!

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