If it's okay for a complete stranger (aka: busybody) to sue a taxi driver for bringing a pregnant woman to an abortion clinic, why can't the pregnant woman just countersue the complete stranger?
Thoughts?
Here's my thought
You're an idiot
So you are perfectly fine with a snitch society? And that includes something as sensitive as an abortion? What happened to keeping Gov't out of your life? Is that only when it pertains to your life?
You know fucking well this is going to turn into a shit show. People are going to turn on neighbors under false pretense so they can hopefully grab a cool 10K.
If you support this immoral bullshit, fuck you! Just fuck you!
I don't wanna hear it
You vaxxers have been saying "my body, my choice" doesn't matter, you want us non vaxxers excluded from society but YOU think its ok to kill babies just cause you couldn't keep your legs closed, used condoms or the morning after pill
Fuck you and all you shitlib fucks. If you don't like Texas laws move somewhere else
I know someone who is a first-class pro-abort…in other words in favor of killing babies. He thinks nothing of ripping a baby out of the womb in pieces. After all “Her Body, Her Choice!” But, dammit that same woman doesn’t want the unknown jab, so suddenly it’s “NOT Her Body, Her Choice!” It’s the damn government’s.
Scald an unborn baby to death, rip it to pieces…that’s just fine with the pro-aborts. But, hells bells don’t take the jab and become the pariah of humanity! What hypocrites they are. It’s their mantra “You can do with what we agree, but don’t go against us!” Sounds almost tyrannical.
Are you suggesting that a good way for ALL American women - married and single - to protest the Texas law is to stop having sex with men until the law is defeated?
shareI also said use the morning after pill, condoms, IUD or other forms of birth control but for you I would suggest not having sex. The world doesn't need anymore wino, crazy cat lady, retards running around
shareBirth control fails. Complete abstinence for every hetero is better unless it's solely to procreate within marriage.
shareBTW, are you going to pay for free birth control and welfare? This abortion law concerns mainly poor women.
shareIf nothing else, your reply is succinct! 🤷🏼♀️
shareThere is an incentive in the law ($10k plus) to sue the taxi driver.
There is no incentive to sue the busybody. What are you going to sue him for?
It's really like I'm a wanted felon, and you call the FBI to tell them my whereabouts. What do I sue you for?
The law appears to be written very sloppily. Normally, a party should be someone who is "directly involved or interested in any act, affair, contract, transaction, or legal proceeding". This law is allowing people who are NOT directly involved or interested to be a party.
Example: I sue you because your neighbor's uncle hit my car. That doesn't make any sense. My motive to sue you is because you have more money than your neighbor's uncle.
The law says Mr. Busybody can sue a taxi driver for bringing a pregnant woman to a clinic. How does that involve Mr. Busybody? What is HIS injury? His motive is only money, no injury.
The taxi driver could sue Mr. Busybody for bringing a frivolous lawsuit, loss wages, harassment (which these lawsuits appear to be), not having any legal merit, etc.. The pregnant woman could also sue.
Another point is that a Mr. Busybody suing for $10k can end-up losing $100k in a counter lawsuit so it's unlikely to be the easy money they think.
RE: Your example. Yours is apples and oranges. Abortion is legal (not a felony). A pregnant woman is being driven to a clinic. Mr. Busybody can sue the taxi driver. Why? There is no crime (abortion is legal). Again, it makes no sense.
I know how civil lawsuits work.
A better example might be a nuisance or a zoning violation. If my next door neighbor is a nuisance, I can sue him. Can I sue my neighbor if he's two doors down? Three? A thousand? Texas seems to think so. And they provided statutory damages ($10k)
I wonder if this Texas law prohibits the WOMAN from suing for $10k if she gets an abortions after the heartbeat period...
shareYour example is bad because there is no illegality. Unlike a nuisance or zoning violation, abortion is legal.
Then, Texas wrote an obviously illegal and unconstitutional law banning abortions after 6 weeks.
Texas knows it's illegal which is why the state, government officials and workers can't sue. Only private citizens.
The illegal law HASN'T been tested before a court yet. It's unlikely to stand, but it has made clinics squeamish about performing them now.
It's obviously against the rule of law.
I'm pretty sure in California there are statutory damages for "lemon cars." If a car dealer sold you a crap car you get a minimum of... IDK... $3k? even if your costs are less than $3k.
Also, I think for fraud you get triple damages, so if your costs are $4k you can sue for $12k.
Fraud and selling a bad product are illegal. Abortions are legal.
shareHow would this law look if the hypothetical act is an abortion performed at, say 34 weeks?
shareThe Texas law is similar to Hitler encouraging Nazi citizens to rat out neighbors and family members.
It makes sense that family members and friends will be the ones suing since they'll know about the pregnancy instead of a stranger.
I agree. I don't understand how the busybody would have standing to file a lawsuit over a stranger's abortion. I remember most of the emoluments clause lawsuits against Trump and his hotel were thrown out for lack of standing. Even the hotels that were located fifteen miles from Trump's hotel were deemed by a judge to lack standing.
They should countersue for child support since the busybody cares so much about the unborn child. $2,500 per month should ensure that the child gets the best care and treatment.
I don't see much of this law holding up long term. Why would a random person sue the driver of someone who had an abortion? Much of this law not only makes no sense, but is fucking lunacy. The only relevant part of the debate is how far along in the pregnancy the mother is.
shareThere's no rule of law. Legislation can eventually allow a private citizen to sue a landlord whose tenant legally owns a gun or sue the taxi driver for bringing the gun owner to a gun range.
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