President-elect Joe Biden declared Monday, hours after the Electoral College made his victory over President Donald Trump official, that "the rule of law, our Constitution and the will of the people prevailed" over Trump's efforts to undo the results of the election.
"The flame of democracy was lit in this nation a long time ago. And we now know nothing, not even a pandemic or an abuse of power, can extinguish that flame," Biden said.
It's over. There is absolutely no path for Trump to re-elected. Can you say, "President Biden?"
Wishful thinking that rump had some magic wand that made the economy better. Better for rich people maybe, but he couldn't give less of a crap about regular folks that aren't part of his cult, and the rest are just tools. Tell 'em what they want to hear, they'll shout and shove their fists in the air and go home just as broke and poor as when they arrived with no hope for better. The best kind of supporters, the kind that don't think.
You Trump supporters really do live in a different reality than most other Americans. It's over and Trump lost. I promise you that Biden will be inaugurated on January 20th and Trump will slink away in disgrace. That is Trump's only path.
It is indeed President Biden.
A lot of people will be very happy on Jan. 20th when he is inaugurated.
But, the way I see it, our system is not working. There is no big cause
to rejoice because Trump was barely beaten. Did you see what he did
trying to corrupt the Supreme Court and then bully them into appointing
him the winner. That is such blatant corruption ... if our system was
working it would have never gotten this far. He was forced on us by
both sides of the media. We Americans must wake up and work together
to make sure nothing like Trump happens again, but at the time we must
push Biden to bring justice to the middle class and minorities. For two
long both parties have been able to bat the public back and forth and
do nothing for Americans. I'm hoping for the best from Biden, but he will
need to be lobbied by citizens and pushed by the people.
There's a word for what Trump's been attempting to do right in front of our face.
Sedition.
And you're right, it really will be dangerous if he's allowed to get away with it by the Biden administration after he's forced from office. Such behavior cannot be tolerated or become the norm. If Biden doesn't appoint the type of AG with the stones to hold him accountable the pressure will then fall on state prosecutors like Letitia James to hold the tyrant to account.
But something absolutely has to happen. If acts of sedition by an outgoing president are tolerated it's just going to spell the demise of this republic sooner.
You lose me when you attempt to get specific. Suggesting Letitia James or any other single person in US AG ... a Federal position, when most of Donald's legal liabilities are state issues seems off the rail to what the real issues and possibilities are.
But I would agree with you that we definitely need a standout AG of the USA to focus on the long time and destructive influences of corporate and billionaire abuses. In fact I think that is the number one issue we face before we ( the people ) will ever get the power and consciousness to bring progress to our system.
The way I see it, at the end of the FDR administration we have a counterrevolution that spun the whole country, and hence the whole world in to the mess it has inherited today - thanks to what can only be called the Large Fascist Fraction of the Overclass , the LFFO ... just made that up.
World War II was not the victory of Democracy over Fascism ... at least not for very long, WWII was the victory of slightly more benevolent fascism over horribly malevolent fascism.
"Suggesting Letitia James or any other single person in US AG ... a Federal position, when most of Donald's legal liabilities are state issues seems off the rail to what the real issues and possibilities are."
Eh? Letitia James is NY STATE AG.
Yes, most of his legal liabilities are STATE ISSUES. That would give STATE AG like James the most meat to prosecute Trump that would be out of the reach of a blanket pardon that he might tried to pull on himself that at most can only keep him from being held to account for FEDERAL CRIMES.
A Federal US Attorney's jurisdiction would fall to the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York who would be responsible for prosecuting Donald for Federal offenses. But that is not Letitia James, she is NY STATE AG.
> That would give STATE AG like James the most meat to prosecute Trump that would be out of the reach of a blanket pardon that he might tried to pull on himself that at most can only keep him from being held to account for FEDERAL CRIMES.
Not really, she is much more effective at the state level. After she disposes of Donald Trump in NY, I'd be fine if she was promoted to US AG.
Trump is not going to be brought to justice under Federal law, of that we can just about be positive.
That was my point if you re-read that sentence. My point was that he was not going to be held account for federal crimes. Donald would be more successfully prosecuted for state crimes out of the reach of the federal judiciary. That is why I brought up James at all.
I was just addressing your misguided claim that I had "gone off the rails" by bringing up James when you seemed to think she was a US AG:
"Suggesting Letitia James or any other single person in US AG ... a Federal position"
I read your sentence and why are you accusing me of not?
No reason to think I did not if you actually know how to read enough to criticize me - and just to pick an nothing.
Seems like you do not.
There is no logic that would think my statement said James was US AG. To think I would not know Barr was US AT ... one would wonder why you are talking to me. You are all mixed up because you are trying to be competitive. No, I don't appreciate it.
You are being provocative for some reason so I see no point in discussing your escalating digs.
No logic? Then why did you explicitly make this wrong statement?
"Suggesting Letitia James or any other single person in US AG ... a Federal position"
Seriously how can you so easily deny what you just said? So sad to see you lack the class to admit a simple mistake. You're really petty and Trump-like.
"Suggesting Letitia James or any other single person in US AG ... a Federal position, when most of Donald's legal liabilities are state issues seems off the rail to what the real issues and possibilities are."
I read this as you saying that bringing up Letitia James as being "off the rails" in your exact words because she holds a "Federal position" when most of "Donald's legal liabilities are state issues".
I am not accusing you of being bad, or wrong, I assume you are honestly speaking here, or trying to. But, you are annoying.
Why do you quote my exact words and then say "in your exact words" ... it is like you are emphasizing you are really mad or feel like blasting me. What for. Is off the rails too strong? Maybe misguided. Why mention Letitia James at all? I meant that your logic seemed to point somewhere else, a tacit request for clarification.
Sheesh, you are off the rails to so upset over something you parsed in a weird way or maybe I wrote in a confusing way, I could have phrased that better, the "in" should have been "as", because it sounded to me like you were proposing Letitia James as US AG.
You could have gotten that from the context of the next sentence and corrected me, or questioned me about it.
Saying "off the rails" sounded very provocative to me, that's why I quoted it. Is it wrong to quote you verbatim when that's what you said? Are you really now accusing me of being "off the rails" for quoting you for accusing me of being "off the rails". Seriously?
You ask why bring up James at all. I brought her up because she is NY State AG and is best positioned to successfully hold Trump to account. Was this implication confusing to you? Based on your question I have to assume yes. I'm sorry you found this confusing. I thought it was something you would understand implicitly when I brought her up because you appeared to me to be well informed about these things. But I realize now I should have more clearly spelled out that as New York AG, she would be best positioned to hold Trump to account for state, not federal, level crimes. As far as I know, James is not being considered for US AG.
But yes, reading back I now see how you misread what I said and thought I was suggesting James as US AG when I was not. I'm sorry for the miscommunication and hope we can put this behind us.
> Is it wrong to quote you verbatim when that's what you said?
Twice is too emotional and redundant.
> because she is NY State AG and is best positioned to successfully hold Trump to account.
But in NY, and she cannot be in two places at once.
I did not find it confusing I found it ambiguous, which I thought you would read in the context of what I replied. I think we agree so I don't need the need to get, what people I do not like call triggered.
I've been following politics since the 1980's, so I do know a little, but still I try to spell out what I mean and not take other people's information level for granted. ??? what is the acronym people use for Explain Like To A 5th grader or 5 year old ELI5 ?
You're right. The repetition was actually passive aggressive on my part and my way indicating annoyance that I wasn't fully cognizant of at the time. This is true.
I should have omitted "your exact words".
And yes, I should have clearly explained why I brought up James instead of just assuming you'd know why. I have a habit of doing that when conversing with people I think are on the same wavelength. I'll do my best in the future to ELI5 hopefully without sounding condescending. Instead of immediately assuming bad intentions when you denied what you appeared to be saying I should have made a greater effort to go back and understand why. 🤔 Sorry.
No worries ... appreciate that. Now I am off to watch the new season of The Expanse on Amazon Prime ... out a day earlier that they announced. Yipppeeee!