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There is no such thing as white supremacy or systemic racism in the US


Both terms are have become meaningless and are only used to demonize and victimize people based solely on their skin color.

It is nonsense only perpetuated by people who want to control others and force them to embrace their agenda.

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I disagree. But why shouldn't there be white supremacy in a country founded and built by white people that has earned them their supremacy and why would anyone think that it was a bad thing or something that should be apologised for let alone something that should be ended ?

As for so called racism everyone is "racist". It's in the genes. This whole "racism" debate is being used as a wedge to gain unearned advantages for people who aren't white.



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What do you mean by white supremacy?

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Western Civilisation is the greatest the world has ever seen by a very large margin and it was built by white people. That's what I call real, tangible, unarguable and earned supremacy.

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What Western Civilization? The one now in decay both in Europe and the US? The one before the French Revolution which actually triggered the decay? The one before the protestant revolt that lead to the French Revolution? All of which were started by white people?

White people have also been responsible for Communism and people like Hitler. Is that White supremacy?

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You are quibbling about third order issues and combining that with disingenuous lines of argument.

Is Western Civilisation perfect ? Of course not but it is so far better than what came before only an idiot would argue about its benefit to mankind.

Are white people perfect ? Of course not but what they have built is so far better than what came before only an idiot would argue about their benefit to mankind.



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"it is so far better than what came before"

But is it, really? The western civilization lead by white people has been on a state of decay for a while now. Why do you think that is?

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Well that is a complicated question. I would say that Civilisations always carry within them the seeds of their own decay. When they are on the up those negative forces are suppressed but on the way down they become more prominent.

Western Civilsation was shaken first by the Industrial Revolution which started the shift away from the country side to the larger towns and cities. Greater mobility and impermanence led to less familiarity and stability.

The two world wars were a dual hammer blow that finished the British Empire which had been the main driving force behind the expansion of Western Civilisation.

And finally multi-culturalism and globalization are laying the ground work for the final disintegration of Western Civilisation.



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Why do you think multi-culturalism and globalization are detrimental? Doesn't it essentially allows a culture to assimilate the best things from just about any other culture?

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No it doesn't. Sure bringing in the Italians for example gave us their skills at building and pizza ! But it also gave us the Mafia and the widespread corruption that goes along with it when we could have just lifted our game for building and asked them for the recipe for pizza.

I'm not saying that there shouldn't be a certain amount of cross cultural exchange for mutual benefit. But that can be done on a small scale and is in no way a reason for mass immigration which is just cutting your own throat.



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White supremacy, not so much. White nationalism, most definiely. Systemic racism, most definitely.

White supremacy is the idea that white people are the superior race. It floats around here and there but doesn't exist much in the context of the US because of our diversity.

White nationalism is a rejection of that diversity, which is indeed very present in white society. Every time we hear the anti-SJWs whining that a black person got a role for a movie that's supposed to go to a white person when white people already get the vast majority of roles, that's white nationalism/tribalism showing itself. That said, I don't really consider it a huge problem because it's just a bunch of nagging that doesn't get anywhere. White nationalists/tribalists have the opportunity to make better movies, or social media platforms that let you say whatever you want about other cultures. They don't do it because it'll suck.

Systemic racism is the reality that white people don't like living next to black people, but maintain ownership of the properties that black people live in. When white people leave, the job opportunities leave, and the schooling deteriorates along with it leaving black communities perpetually stuck in poverty.

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"White nationalists/tribalists have the opportunity to make better movies"

And couldn't that be said about black people, make your own movies instead of taking existing IPs and race swapping? The anti-SJWs cry about that in particular and also that the SJW make black characters to be entirely defined by them being black as opposed to a person who just happens to be black.

"the reality that white people don't like living next to black people"

That is an awful lot of projection and generalization. I may as well say the the reverse is also true.

"but maintain ownership of the properties that black people live in"

Well just like you said previously blacks also "have the opportunity to make better movies, or social media platforms".

But in truth your whole post robs black people of having any agency which is a very common thing for leftists to do. You completely make them into helpless victims that need the white man to success. Just another white savior framework.

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"And couldn't that be said about black people, make your own movies instead of taking existing IPs and race swapping?"

Black people aren't the ones complaining about white people and black people mixing together in a movie. White nationalists/tribalists are.

"That is an awful lot of projection and generalization. I may as well say the the reverse is also true."

Black people aren't the ones leaving neighborhoods where white people and black people are mixed together. White people are. A diverse neighborhood draws more black people in, which makes white people want to leave.

"Well just like you said previously blacks also "have the opportunity to make better movies, or social media platforms"."

Black people cannot force white people to sell property to them. It's up to the owner of the property to sell it. And with all the higher-end opportunities leaving the community along with white people, there's less money available to acquire said property anyway.

"But in truth your whole post robs black people of having any agency which is a very common thing for leftists to do."

A post is incapable of robbing anyone's agency. You can disagree with it, but you know you won't provide evidence against it. So you gotta find this silly angle to attack it.

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"Black people aren't the ones complaining about white people and black people mixing together in a movie. White nationalists/tribalists are. "

"Black people aren't the ones leaving neighborhoods where white people and black people are mixed together. White people are. "

A single visit to lipstick alley forums or hell even twitter would show you otherwise. Plenty of black people are incredibly racist...oh wait...they can't only be "prejudiced". Right...

"Black people cannot force white people to sell property to them. It's up to the owner of the property to sell it."

Where is said discrimination happening to the extent that would warrant the "systemic racism" label?

"A post is incapable of robbing anyone's agency. You can disagree with it, but you know you won't prove it wrong. So you gotta find this silly angle to attack it."

Nah I just got to the root issue from which things whole thing flows. Malcom X called white liberals wolves and the worst enemies of blacks for a reason.

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"A single visit to lipstick alley forums or hell even twitter would show you otherwise. Plenty of black people are incredibly racist...oh wait...they can't only be "prejudiced". Right..."

Diverse neighborhoods draw black people in, which makes white people want to leave. Your anecdotal nonsense of what you perceive as racism, or whatever "plenty" means, doesn't apply here.

"Where is said discrimination happening?"

Systemic racism is not discrimination. Most ghetto apartments are owned by wealthy or somewhat wealthy white people. There's not enough means for black people living in that ghetto to gather enough money to buy those properties for themselves.

"Nah I just got to the root issue from which things whole thing flows. Malcom X called white liberals wolves and the worst enemies of blacks for a reason."

Malcolm X is correct for the most part because he knows what modern liberals are. They'll support any democrat no matter what. Trump even got them supporting moderate republicans like the Lincoln Project. Hillary and Biden's 1994 crime bill was designed to get repubs on their side, and liberals went along with it. But Trump not only supported the crime bill, he thought it didn't go far enough. That's why I support Biden over Trump, but I support Bernie over Biden. Progressivism is where it's at. And that's MLK, kiddo.

By the way...
Malcolm X: "You show me a capitalist, I’ll show you a bloodsucker.”

If you think Malcolm X would be on the side of Trump, Kanye or 50 Cent, you are gravely mistaken.

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The only nonsense here is what you wrote.

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What a roto argument, care to try again?

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I think not. Not with you. You don't strike me as the type who's looking for a real discussion.

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A racist group made up those terms and put them into our vernacular.

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The OP is in denial of slavery, Jim Crow, the confederacy which fought for slavery and the KKK which are all a part of white supremacy and systemic white racism. The OPs denial only perpetuates the racism problem within the U.S..

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Slavery was abolished...by whites. The KKK is a meaningless fringe group that society in general looks down upon. The only one in denial is yourself.

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