You catch a burglar, and you carry a gun.
If the burglar surrenders (which involves both not advancing and having his hands still and visible), there's no reason to shoot. If he runs from you, there's no reason to shoot.
But, what if he advances towards you? Should you be allowed to shoot? Should be it considered self-defense?
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If he is in your home sure...unclear if caught on a roadway...you should at least fire a warning shot.
Those guys in Georgia are toast.
They went out chasing after a guy who was obviously not carrying anything. Just plain dumb.
You are running down a road when two rednecks stop you and accuse you of burglary...I think most of us would fight back.
They went out chasing after a guy who was obviously not carrying anything.
Yeah he was running in shorts and a white t shirt.
I guess there has been a string of burglaries in the neighborhood. The ex cop and his son got a little too focused on the suspect in the chase (called tunnel vision) to use the reasoning powers of the brain.
I thought that was the whole reason you were all tooled up the US?
If you cant shoot in that situation when can you?
Whats the point having a gun?
I say yes. You should be able to shoot a burglar who advances towards you since the burglar becomes an attacker when he advances towards you.
The attorney who leaked the video thought that the father and son would be exonerated by the video and I agree. You can clearly see the burglar attack the shooter. Most people would either flee or stop to talk to the people who caught them.
What burglar in the video? The guy was just jogging wasn't he? What did he steal?
If someone is in your house, then yes, you know they don't belong there and should be able to put a bullet in them. However, you can't drive down the street after some random guy you think is a burglar and point a gun at him. The guy probably thought he was being robbed or worse, and felt like he had to make a move to fight for his life. If two rednecks pulled up next to me in a pickup holding a shotgun I'd be in the mindset for a fight as well.
The guy "jogging" broke into a house under construction, which is why they called the police and followed him.
Of course, I'm not saying that breaking into houses is necessarily burglary. Who knows, perhaps it was part of the jogging routine designed by his coach 😄
I haven't seen anything that backs up what you just said. There is no evidence that I see that indicates that the guy was a burglar. The shooters just assumed that he was.
shareThis is the call they made to the 911 when they saw him breaking into a house.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEOBDlg9rp8
There is video of the burglar casing the construction site. The burglar was arrested for shoplifting back in 2018 and this was a violation of his probation stemming from the 2013 gun incident. The father also investigated the young man previously so he knew he was a criminal.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8307457/New-surveillance-video-shows-Ahmaud-Arbery-entering-construction-site-leaving-handed.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-ahmaud-arbery-previous-suspect-previous-investigation-prosecutor-20200509-lx7uxr6n2jha3lnyrehjycy2by-story.html
The burglar was arrested in 2018 for shoplifting so he has a history of thievery. The burglar was not just jogging. The burglar spent three minutes in a house under construction to case the joint. Copper pipes/wires can be quite valuable and is often stolen from construction sites. He may not have stolen anything that day but he would probably return at night to fill up a truck. He was running because a neighbor called 911 on him and he saw that he was found out.
The father and son are good neighbors since they were trying to catch a burglar in their neighborhood. If I were approached by two guys with guns, I would stop to listen to them or run faster. The odds for success are low so I would never attack a guy holding a shotgun.
Good neighbors? I'm just glad they didn't live in my neighborhood. Looking out for neighbors and calling 911 when you see something suspicious is one thing, but climbing into your pickup with your guns, chasing someone down and trying to detain them at gunpoint is something else. Even if their intentions were good, it seems like a pretty stupid thing to do.
shareWhat burglar?
shareI just think of the Oscar Pistorius case and shudder at the thought of shooting someone in the home. It can be in the dark of night, homeowner stressed out over noise, not thinking straight, next step could be a parent shooting their child who was just trying to sneak a little midnight snack.
shareWe’ve had 1 full fledged home invasion plus an almost 2nd one (floor to door kick braces prevented)
We weren’t home for either one thank God! If it occurs again and we are home...s/he, they are dead!
I don't get the impression the OP knows the difference between a burglar and a robber.
shareHell yes you shoot if the burglar advances toward you! What, do you just want to be taken down and possibly killed?
This person is robbing you. They deserve no courtesy, and if more burglars get shot the less people will consider burglarizing someone’s home, and leave decent people alone.
I can’t believe I’m living in a world where you have to consider the feelings of a criminal who broke into your home to steal from you, and possibly harm you or your family. I’m baffled by that.
Of course, if this situation is outside your own home, call the police and stay the hell out of it unless you see someone being beaten or assaulted.