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Wow! Rudy Giuliani has been set up to be the fall guy for the Ukraine scandal after all. Poor Rudy.

posted 5 years ago by eYeDEF (5050)
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Trump said he hopes Rudy Giuliani doesn't get indicted but repeated he doesn't know the two men or their connection to his personal attorney. This confirms it.

Rudy is the fall guy and Lord Barr is arranging for the fall. I just don't see how Trump is unscathed. If 3 guys go to jail for UKR gate, Trump undoubtedly gets impeached and outed as the ring leader. He faces major criminal liability exposure when he leaves office. Logic says the likelihood of resignation in exchange for no prosecution increases.

Rudy has gone radio silent for the moment. SDNY is looking into his relationship with Parnas and Fruman. I don’t know why he hasn't been arrested yet. There's literally nothing those 2 Ukrainian dudes could've done without Rudy paving the way and directing them.

With Rick Perry now being subpoenaed to talk about his relationship with the same 2 indicted people (and his dealings with Rudy) I'm having a hard time seeing how Trump isn't fatally wounded by this. If you take out Rudy, you take out Trump, or so goes the logic.

But we've yet to see the hidden Hand of Lord Barr make an appearance in all this and how he'll act as a firewall to protect Trump.

[–] joi2049 (5627) 5 years ago

An AMUSING GUEST on MSNBC said she wonders how long it's going to take before THE SCAM MAN tries to claim that he DOESN'T KNOW RUDY. : )

These 2 THUGS who are sitting in JAIL now for attempting to FLEE the COUNTRY with the ONE WAY TICKETS they purchased will no doubt SING just as LOUDLY as COHEN did after his ARREST.

But I also suspect the SCAM MAN is going to WHINE (rather than AGREE to RESIGN) and be the same BIG CRY BABY that he's always been.

In other words, instead of RESIGN he'll probably also keep saying it's all a DEEP STATE CONSPIRACY and these people are SPIES who are trying to BRING HIM DOWN.

If you check out my DATELINE WHITE HOUSE TOPIC you'll also find LINKS where a former FBI DUDE says they seem to have WIRE TAPS on RUDY due to the DETAILS of the CONTENT that keeps getting released to us on the news shows.

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/5d9f93d62af75b2c24de1737/DATELINE-WHITE-HOUSE-discusses-how-RUDYs-been-WIRE-TAPPED

My guess is they probably also have SURVEILLANCE TAPES on PENCE/BARR/POMPEO and maybe PERRY as well.

Because They'd also be FOOLS not to have SPIED on the SCAM MAN after the way he said he believed PUTIN more than he did our own INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ... when he was there in HELLSINKI with PUTIN ... where he said he had no reason not to believe PUTIN when he said he didn't HACK into our ELECTION.

Remember that theory I put forth when I first arrived here about how BARR might be working as a DOUBLE AGENT as a way to bring down the SCAM MAN (due to the way Barr was also FRIENDS with MUELLER for so long)???

How IRONIC would it be if we were to find out both BARR and RUDY have been working in that kind of a capacity!!!
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[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Rudy was headed to Vienna tonight to meet with those two Ukrainian dudes who had one way tickets after getting wind they were getting arrested. That was before they got corralled today before they left the country.

Not looking good for ole Rudy.

I wonder if and when Rudy figures out that Trump does not have his back and his best shot is to cut a deal with Adam Schiff.

[–] joi2049 (5627) 5 years ago

Go listen to the PODCAST:

https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/deadlinewhitehouse?selected=NBCN1493304433

At the 3:45 TIME MARK the FORMER DIRECTOR of the FBI explains in 2 SHORT MIN the REASONS why he believes they have tapes on RUDY, which means they already have the GOODS they need on HIM and wouldn't need to CUT a DEAL with him.

And since there's also been a reference to "OTHERS KNOWN and NOT KNOWN," if they've got TAPES on RUDY, then the chances are probably also pretty good that they've got some on THE SCAM MAN, PENCE, BARR, POMPEO, and maybe on PERRY too.

Because the FORMER FBI GUY also explains how the RUDY tapes maybe be the result of them LISTENING to someone else (like the SCAM MAN), and then RUDY gets caught up in the NET that they flung out incidentally .

SCHIFF also said that he "wasn't FOOLING AROUND". And IF HE KNOWS about the RECORDINGS, that may also be the reason why he said that.

And NANCY also said that the SCAM MAN was what she called "SELF IMPEACHING." .

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

What he said was if there was a wiretap it would have caught Giuliani "incidentally" because the two Ukrainian dudes were the primary focus. So that means it's less likely any of the others higher ups would have been caught on tape since Giuliani wouldn't have been the focus of the wiretap.

I reserve judgement until the news breaks. I've been disappointed by too many false alarms about bogus speculations of wiretaps.

[–] joi2049 (5627) 5 years ago

On HARDBALL tonight still another GUEST CLEARLY STATES that he believes PENCE/POMPEO/BARR/ and the SCAM MAN have all been UNDER SURVEILLANCE.

My bet is RUDY is just one of the UNDER DOGS that got "INCIDENTALLY" SWEPT UP in the OTHER BIGGER NET that's been THROWN OUT THERE to CATCH the other THIEVES who get named in the ARTICLES of IMPEACHMENT.

But since RUDY doesn't work for the GOVERNMENT, he probably also won't be named as someone who needs to be IMPEACHED for that reason.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Yeah I'm just not buying it.

[–] joi2049 (5627) 5 years ago

You're certainly welcome to BUY or NOT BUY whatever you like.

But when it comes to choosing to believe YOU or the FORMER DIRECTOR of the FBI, I'm choosing to BUY what the FBI GUY has to say.

Isn't it also INTERESTING how SCAM MAN JR. is also seen sitting there in that photo with the 2 guys that are sitting there in jail now???

Remember how he also tried to LIE before about how the other MEETING he had with the RUSSIANS was about ADOPTIONS???

And then we also learned how the SCAM MAN himself was the one who had come up with that IDEA???

I'm betting ALL of THEM have been SPIED ON, and rightfully so too after all of the other CRAP that they've tried to say and do.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

I'm not well-versed on the law but CAN Rudy be used to roll on Trump, given that he is Trump's lawyer?

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Communication isn't privileged if it's made with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud. So yeah, if Trump is trying to frame him in Ukraine as committing crimes that the president hired him to carry out, he could absolutely decide to flip.

It looks like Rudy was doing a lot of other shady things in Ukraine too that Trump may or may not have been aware of, like trying to get a piece of a Ukraine gas company and taking bribes for being Trump's fixer and having his ear.

He was playing the fixer role that Michael Cohen dreamed about playing for Trump before the election until Trump decided Cohen's hands were too dirty to keep him on board when he won the WH.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Wow...this all sounds so absurd that you'd think thus was a bad political tv show plot. It sounds like a...cliche.

I don't see how a rat like Rudy doesn't flip unless he believes he'll be pardoned.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

You'd be laughed out of every director's office in Hollywood if you tried to sell this script.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

I actually feel embarrassed--like I cringe at the thought of what the rest of the world is thinking of us right now. Must be laughing their a$$es off/thinking we're all crazy.

[–] joi2049 (5627) 5 years ago

A friend in HOLLAND says the EU definitely thinks we're NUTS for putting up with the SCAM MAN for as long as we have and can't believe we haven't already gotten RID of him by now.

NOTE the way BRITIAN is also already fighting back against the SCAM MAN's DOUBLE who became PRIME MINISTER over there.

Has anyone heard any COMMENTS made by RUDY since the ARREST of the 2 DUDES yesterday???

If so, what does he have to say???

If he has any sense left he'd keep his STUPID MOUTH SHUT from now on instead of saying so much stuff that can be USED against him.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Ugh...

I've heard of people who would be asked: "Why did you vote for that guy?" and the people would reply with: "I didn't. A lot of us didn't."

We were already the laughing stock of the whole world--now it's exponentially worse.

Donald is literally the embodiment of every last American cliche most countries have for us: Fat, greedy, thinks he owns the whole world, dying his skin orange, loud, brash, uncultured, etc.

The world will never fully trust us again when he's gone, knowing we're capable of electing such a buffoon. We can only hope to mend fences as much as possible when the fat hog is gone.

[–] joi2049 (5627) 5 years ago

Actually the same kind of things that are happening here are also happening in EUROPE as well.

And part of it is because the WHITE RACE is disappearing (due to the use of BIRTH CONTROL), and that has people in a PANIC because they FEAR the MINORITIES they've been EXPLOITING will TURN the TABLE and begin to treat them the same way as they've been MISTREATED.

So try to not to worry that much about what a LAUGHING STOCK we've become.

Just try to FOCUS upon how those who TESTIFY before CONGRESS are also saying things that can be used as the EVIDENCE we need at the IMPEACHMENT TRIAL to GET RID of HIM.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Speaking as a white guy, I really couldn't give two sh!ts if my race one day disappears.

We're all mixed race as it is and I find it funny/sad/ridiculous how people care about "preserving" the white race. By all counts, we're really a genetic anomaly. The earliest people were NOT white.

And this isn't "being racist against whites"--it's a simple statement of fact.

No wonder so many racists love Trump: he really feeds into their anti-brown, anti-immigrant sentiments rather well.

[–] joi2049 (5627) 5 years ago

Actually the SKELETAL REMAINS and MITOCHONDRIAL DNA of LUCY PROVE all of us ORIGINATED OUT of AFRICA.

Then as we MIGRATED to the COLDER NORTHERN REGIONS where there is LESS SUNLIGHT, our SKINS TURNED WHITE (just like the POLAR BEARS are also WHITE in the POLAR REGIONS).

Because WHITE SKIN is also able to ABSORB SUNLIGHT better, which is also a HANDICAPP for us with CLIMATE CHANGE, which is making the PLANET HOTTER and doing MORE DAMAGE to our SKIN TYPES.

So count me in as someone who doesn't give a HOOT what color skin someone has, which is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to they TYPE of a person that they are on the INSIDE.

And, like you say, on the INSIDE the SCAM MAN is also as ROTTEN as they come.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Well said!

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

LOL! Even Pat Robertson the evangelical is speaking out against Donald and the Syria situation. WOW!

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Yeah even Franklin Graham weighed down by his Miami pool boy sex scandals couldn't prevent him from speaking out against the move. He seems to be in total berserker self destruct mode right now alienating all his essential allies BEFORE his re-election run. It's insane!

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Impeachment might not even be necessary at this point. He's likely to peter out by election night at this rate. Literally the ONLY ones still holding on (other than Turtle) is his most hardened supporters.

His base is scary--literally NOTHING is turning them off from Trump. NOTHING. The kinds of excuses they're making are so damn crazy it actually hurts my head to read them.

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

When you have a President doing such great things for the country, you don't want to let the go. 2024 will be a sad time when Trump finishes his 2nd term

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

2021 will be a sad time for your and your clown posse around here when you no longer have your orange cheeto to troll this board with anymore. :)

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Which country are you talking about? Russia?

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

God knows Ronald has done a lot for Russia--especially the Syria thing.

It will forever be known in history that we had a president of the United States who spoke better words of Putin than most American citizens.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Michael Cohen did - so Rudy can, too.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Then that's their best move. Cut a deal with the moron (even though he doesn't deserve it) and get him to roll on Donald. That's the Achilles option right there.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

LOL! It's snowballing. Whistleblowers coming out of every nook and cranny.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/more-potential-whistleblowers-are-contacting-congress

Kick back and enjoy the shitshow of an administration collapsing.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

WOW...Pandora's Box gas officially opened and all it took I'd one person with enough balls to roll the snowball down the hill.