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Some conservatives actual are pro-science...just not the trump-cultists

posted 5 years ago by [deleted]
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This weak as the trump administration rolled back regulations on methane emissions, conservative business leaders actually say it's a bad idea:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/29/trump-to-roll-back-methane-climate-change-regulations.htm

"Some major oil, gas and auto companies have actually opposed the Trump administration’s rollback proposals.

Four of the world’s biggest automakers opposed Trump’s plan to let vehicles pollute more by striking a deal in California to curb their own emissions. And some electric utility companies have opposed the EPA’s weakened regulations on toxic mercury emissions by coal-burning power plants."

And since 2017 (better late than never) some conservatives have stepped into the fight against climate change deniers:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xwwzdd/the-republicans-trying-to-fight-climate-denial-in-their-own-party

So there is hope for conservatives. Just not the ones who have pledged their undying loyalty to donald trump, a climage change denier who is actively repealing regulations that even business leaders think is stupid.

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

Conservatives are more pro science than the "there are 500 gender" liberals. Global temps are rising, but there is a debate on whether this is man made or a natural cycle. Don't be mad at Trump, be mad at China & India who pollute the world and face no consequences.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

No one can seriously say they are pro-science and also say that there is a debate whether climate change is man made.
From NASA's website:
Scientific Consensus: Earth's Climate is Warming
...
Statement on Climate Change from 18 Scientific Associations
"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver."

"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)"

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

Up for debate. Many scientists will tell you its a natural cycle. This all irrelevant because even if the US went completely green you still have Asia & India polluting the world.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Up for debate? Primarily in conservative sunday school classes and not much of anywhere else.
People are always going to believe nonsense so everything is always "up for debate."
That's the only defense conservatives have at this point.

I bet there was a tribe of cavemen saying. "Let's hunt with sticks." and one guy was like "I'd like to debate that proposal."
You know how humans survived and hunted and ate better? They ignored the imbecile.

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

All moot if the US goes green because other countries will kill the earth anyway.