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Venezuela, U.S. and Starving Children

posted 5 years ago by Keelai (34858)
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Former Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez nationalized their oil fields and gave the money to the poor which lowered the poverty rate throughout the country.

After he died, Maduro became president, but he wasn't as popular. "Investors" in the U.S. and Europe saw an opportunity to try and take back the oil fields and make money again by forcing Maduro out. Foreign equipment to refine petrol was denied which helped create an economic crisis. Venezuela had the oil but no longer the means to refine it. Food and medicine imports were also denied which helped destabilize the economy by causing hyperinflation. The average Venezuelan earns $6 each month. One hot dog costs $2.

So far, foreign attempts to overthrow Maduro and take their oil has failed.

Children and their parents suffer. I just watched an interesting video by a world traveler who just visited a slum. Right now, they have no tourism and it's a violent country. The traveler had went to places like North Korea, Vietnam and Iran. He's gutsy!

The video is interesting and the kids are adorable. It's amazing how friendly and happy children can remain under such horrible conditions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYVkFcWqcIo&t=66s

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

If you like Venezuela so much why dont you move there. I'm sure they could use another die-hard commie LOL

[–] Keelai (34858) 5 years ago

The video is about young children who can maintain their innocence and warmth in a time of suffering, but a sociopath like yourself wouldn't be able to understand that.

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

LOL you really love children, eh? Michael Jackson wannabe.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Apparently you hate children which is why you’re pro-child abuse.

[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

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Viva los ninos de los Estado Unidos! 🇺🇸

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

Stop screwing kids, pedo!

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Apparently you hate children which is why you’re pro-child abuse.

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

Your party backs pedophiles, so you endorse child abuse. (And child killing via post birth abortions).

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Your party backs child abuse, so you endorse pedophiles .

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

Some liberals want to endorse the normalization of pedophilia, sick fucks!

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Some conservatives want to endorse the normalization of child abuse, sick fucks!

#BeBest

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

Maybe in your warped mind that is how you twisted it

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Maybe in your warped mind that is how you twisted it

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

Maybe in your warped mind that is how you twisted it

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

In your warped mind that is how you twisted it - no "maybe".

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

Maybe in your warped mind that is how you twisted it, no?

[–] CraigC (8160) 5 years ago

Did you take your argument to the ACLU when they decided to defend NAMBLA???

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Sure did! I also protested the T-rump endorsement of Roy Moore for US Senate.

Did you?

[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

No, HELL no!

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Didn't think so - we all know you T-rumpanzees support and condone child molesters and pedophilia.

[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

Conviction for either is where?

Uh huh...

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"...put ya'll back in chains?"

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Just Biden my time...

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

LOL democraps are desperate

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

Apparently you love children since you want to bring them all in. Sicko

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

"God's word is very clear in telling us that all men are created equal and every single person can be a child of God, receiving the full inheritance of heaven. We can look toward the Bible to learn how to love and serve everyone no matter what their age, color, or ethnicity, gender or nationality. Teach these Bible verses to your children and future generations so that the love of God for all mens equality can be respected and treasured!"

https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-equality/

Apparently you despise the Word of God since you hate children and want to abuse them. Sicko

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

Ah youre a Christian pedo nut. That explains everything. LOL

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 5 years ago

All the influence and manipulation the world is putting on Venezuela that creates so many problems for its economy.... and all stupid conservatards can do is blame it all on mere socialism.

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

Every country that has been run by socialists have all failed- its never worked in the past and never will. If you put socialists in charge of a desert, there would be a shortage of sand.

The only ones who still believe in socialism are die-hard libtards.

[–] Sandoz (2021) 5 years ago

Yep, big failures in Sweden, Denmark, Norway...

Btw, Norway is a country your TrumpFuhrer wishes would send us more immigrants from.

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

Those are not socialist countries you idiot. Go read a book.

[–] Sandoz (2021) 5 years ago

"Those are not socialist countries "

Good lord, your stupidity is astounding. But for a Trumptard, I suppose your IQ is about typical.

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

Ive been to those countries you idiotic dumbass. They are capitalistic countries with massive welfare systems.

Just like AOC you are as retarded as they come. I bet you dont even know what socialism means, moron.

[–] Sandoz (2021) 5 years ago

I know what asshole means, asshole.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Lol!!!

[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

Mating call of the left...

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[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

Youre dumber than a retarded clam, dickhead.

[–] Keelai (34858) 5 years ago

Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands and Finland have a social democracy. Social democracies have private enterprise with a high level of government support services.

You're the one who is clueless. AOC is a democratic socialist which is different. There are also socialist, capitalist and communist. Five different economic systems.

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

Go join your socialist bedfellows in Venezuela, retard, and take AOC with you.

[–] CraigC (8160) 5 years ago

That's the popular narrative and then there's the truth. The truth is there is little socio-economic mobility and astronomical income tax rates. All that crap that people like you say is "free", ain't.

[–] Keelai (34858) 5 years ago

You need to stop listening to Fox "propaganda" and educate yourself by actually reading some books. You don't know anything about economic systems.

[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

You don't know anything about economic systems.

Stoop projecting, chief.

[–] Keelai (34858) 5 years ago

You have nothing intelligent to add.

[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

He shoots...he scores..

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He wins!

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[–] SeussMyTub (226) 5 years ago

YES! Libtards are so stupid!

[–] CraigC (8160) 5 years ago

They are not socialist countries. You have been lied to and you believed it.

[–] Keelai (34858) 5 years ago

Conservatives will complain when they flee Venezuela to come to the U.S. after its economy has been wrecked by greedy foreign investors and their government puppets.

[–] CraigC (8160) 5 years ago

I don't want refugees from anywhere.

[–] Keelai (34858) 5 years ago

Trump interference in Venezuela and Iran will create refugees, That's the way it works.

[–] CraigC (8160) 5 years ago

Venezuela is imploding due to its own crap. Can't blame Trump for that.

As I said, I don't want refugees from anywhere, we have enough of our own freeloaders.

[–] Keelai (34858) 5 years ago

""Foreign equipment to refine petrol was denied which helped create an economic crisis. Venezuela had the oil but no longer the means to refine it. Food and medicine imports were also denied which helped destabilize the economy by causing hyperinflation.""

I just did.

[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

Former Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez nationalized their oil fields and gave the money to the poor which lowered the poverty rate throughout the country.

Yeah...that worked like a freaking CHARM didn't it?

Now they have- NOTHING.

NO economy.

NO food.

NO health care.

NO safety.

NOTHING.

Oh and that "poverty rate"?

90%, mas o menos...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Venezuela
The ENCOVI annual survey by three universities estimated poverty at 48% in 2014, 82% in 2016 and 87% in 2017

[–] Keelai (34858) 5 years ago

"Foreign equipment to refine petrol was denied which helped create an economic crisis. Venezuela had the oil but no longer the means to refine it. Food and medicine imports were also denied which helped destabilize the economy by causing hyperinflation."

Are you so stupid that you can't figure out it's all about the oil. The same reason the U.S. invaded or intervened in Libya, Iraq, Syria and Iran.

[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

Guess what happens when you NATIONALIZE the producing assets of other nations who were helping you extract that oil?

Just fucking GUESS!

Dense.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/05/07/how-venezuela-ruined-its-oil-industry/

The current crisis can be traced to the historical management of the country's oil industry.

Venezuela's highest-ever oil production occurred in 1998 at 3.5 million barrels per day (BPD). That also happened to be the year that Hugo Chávez was elected president of Venezuela. During the Venezuelan general strike of 2002–2003, Chávez fired 19,000 employees of the state oil company Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A. (PDVSA) and replaced them with employees loyal to his government.

This eliminated a tremendous amount of experience from Venezuela's oil industry. Most of Venezuela's proved oil reserves consists of extra-heavy crude oil in the Orinoco Belt. The Orinoco contains an estimated 1.2 trillion barrels of oil resource. This oil is expensive to produce, but after oil prices climbed to $100/bbl, 235 billion barrels of this heavy oil were moved into the "proved reserves" category. This positioned Venezuela ahead of Saudi Arabia as the country with the world's largest proved oil reserves.

Because this oil is particularly challenging to produce, Venezuela invited international oil companies into the country to participate in the development of these reserves. Companies like ExxonMobil, BP, Chevron, Total and ConocoPhillips invested billions of dollars in technology and infrastructure to turn the extra-heavy oil into crude oil exports.

The Government Gets Greedy

In 2007 oil prices were on the rise, and the Chávez government sought more revenue as the investments made by the international oil companies began to pay off. Venezuela demanded changes to the agreements made by the international oil companies that would give PDVSA majority control of the projects.
I explicitly warned about this in an article I wrote in 2007:

[–] Keelai (34858) 5 years ago

Why do you have a problem with Venezuelan people benefiting from Venezuelan oil?