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Sauron and some of the orcs had survived...........

posted 9 years ago by Camelot_2000
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after the destruction of The One Ring in the lake of fire. I specifically recall it being mentioned in the book. Since Sauron was an immortal spirit, the destruction of the ring wouldn't erase him out of existence. He'd become a small embittered cloud floating around in the tunnels far below ground. Those orcs that survived the final battle of Mordor would flee deep into the underground as well and would always remain there.

It would have been interesting if Tolkien had wrote a sequel to LOTR and had the story set 2 or 3 thousand years later. A band of men would find the secret tunnels to the deep depths below and go down to explore, unaware of the dangers that lurked in the shadows. Just a thought.

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[–] CTS-1 9 years ago

You may want to Google "The New Shadow." It was set in Fourth Age Gondor. However, Tolkien quickly abandoned it.

Look- it's trying to think!

[–] Mona_Liselotte 9 years ago

Oh now that, would have been something! I wonder why he quickly abandoned it?

[–] BB-15 9 years ago

Tolkien's great myth is one long story about the creation of the universe / solar system / earth (Arda) by God (Eru / Iluvatar) with the forces of good on one side; the main Valar with their followers (including the Wizards), opposed by the forces of evil led by Melkor/Morgoth and his disciple Sauron.
That story on a grand scale began with The Silmarillion and ended with the final pages of Lord of the Rings.

"The New Shadow" as a sequel to LOTR was quickly abandoned because it was mostly outside of the major myth.
After LOTR Sauron had been completely defeated. The Elves were pretty much gone from Middle-earth.
The magical creatures had receded to be just a memory.
- All that was left in "The New Shadow" was human beings being misguided and cruel.
That story was a routine fictional tale which Tolkien felt was not worth his time.

Instead what Tolkien worked on until the end of his life was fleshing out the mythical world he had previously created.
For instance there were late writings which increased the importance of Galadriel in The Silmarillion era.

BB ;-)

it is just in my opinion - imo - 🌈

[–] CTS-1 9 years ago

What BB said. Tolkien himself said that "The New Shadow" was shaping up to be a typical mystery/thriller novel, and that was why he lost interest.

Look- it's trying to think!

[–] indy_go_blue44 9 years ago

The magical creatures had receded to be just a memory.

They're not all gone. We still have chickens and cats.