Roger Maris holds the single season home run record

what happened to the old thread? it was a classic.

what happened to the old thread? it was a classic.
My account of 10 years was wiped. Banned. 

I'm not sure why. Likely from a comment on the Politics Board.

Roger Maris holds the single season home run record. The real single season record.

Technically, that is false, but i know what you mean

Yeah, but it took him 162 games. Ruth hit 60 in 154 games. So I think it's still Ruth's.

Yeah, but it took him 162 games. Ruth hit 60 in 154 games. So I think it's still Ruth's.
Babe Ruth was a great and unique player.

Through no fault of his own he played baseball at a time when the game was segregated. Some of the best pitchers were in the Negro Leagues.

This was taken into consideration when they removed the asterisk from Roger Maris's record. That was before the juicer McGwire broke the record by cheating.

Roger Maris holds the single season home run record. The real single season record.

By that logic Joe DiMaggio doesn't hold the consecutive game hitting streak record. Ty Cobb doesn't hold the record for highest lifetime BA. Cy Young doesn't hold the record for most lifetime wins. Hack Wilson doesn't hold the single season record for RBIs. Billy Hamilton doesn't hold the single season record for runs scored. 19th century player Hugh Duffy doesn't hold the single season record for highest BA ever, and Rogers Hornsby doesn't hold the post-19th century record for highest single season BA ever. And George Sisler NEVER-EVER hold the single season record for most hits. Nor did Babe Ruth EVER hold the single season record for HRs (in which case can you tell me who did hold that record, before Maris broke it?). And it means that it was not Ruth's record that Aaron broke for lifetime HRs. And that Ty Cobb NEVER-EVER hold the single season 20th century record for SB (before being broken my Maury Wills), nor did Billy Hamilton ever hold the lifetime record for SB (before being broken by Lou Brock). ETC.

And since you also don't seem to think that steroid-era players can be record holders (if you did then you would have no problem with Bonds holding the single season HR record) it means the only MLB players that can hold records would basically be limited to the time period 1947-through the late 1980's).

And of course the logical extension of your argument would mean ALL the stats that Ruth/Cobb/Hornsby/Cy Young/Gehrig/Walter Johnson/etc put up should be thrown out the window. Because if you don't qualify as being able to hold a record because you played during the "segregated era", why should any of your stats be counted??

By that logic Joe DiMaggio doesn't hold the consecutive game hitting streak record. Ty Cobb doesn't hold the record for highest lifetime BA. Cy Young doesn't hold the record for most lifetime wins. Hack Wilson doesn't hold the single season record for RBIs. Billy Hamilton doesn't hold the single season record for runs scored. 19th century player Hugh Duffy doesn't hold the single season record for highest BA ever, and Rogers Hornsby doesn't hold the post-19th century record for highest single season BA ever. And George Sisler NEVER-EVER hold the single season record for most hits. Nor did Babe Ruth EVER hold the single season record for HRs (in which case can you tell me who did hold that record, before Maris broke it?). And it means that it was not Ruth's record that Aaron broke for lifetime HRs. And that Ty Cobb NEVER-EVER hold the single season 20th century record for SB (before being broken my Maury Wills), nor did Billy Hamilton ever hold the lifetime record for SB (before being broken by Lou Brock). ETC.

And since you also don't seem to think that steroid-era players can be record holders (if you did then you would have no problem with Bonds holding the single season HR record) it means the only MLB players that can hold records would basically be limited to the time period 1947-through the late 1980's).

And of course the logical extension of your argument would mean ALL the stats that Ruth/Cobb/Hornsby/Cy Young/Gehrig/Walter Johnson/etc put up should be thrown out the window. Because if you don't qualify as being able to hold a record because you played during the "segregated era", why should any of your stats be counted??
I am not challenging any of the statistics in your long-winded diatribe. The statistics you mentioned are valid.

I only am stating a FACT about the single season home run record.

Immediately after Roger hit #61 then Baseball Commissioner Ford Frick (one of Babe Ruth's closest friends) said Roger Maris didn't break the record and allegedly ordered an asterisk to be placed in any official records. After a short period of time the asterisk was removed. Whether this order for an asterisk was placed or not is a matter of dispute among baseball historians. The asterisk did appear in many records in the 1960's for a short time.

Roger Maris had to play under different circumstances (more travel, more night games, etc) that were a factor in removing the asterisk.

Roger Maris holds the single season home run record. The real single season record.

I agree. I see the pre-integration #'s still being valid because while there were less players, they were also the cream of the crop. Yeah, there were some guys who were mostly known for their defense, but most of the guys were the best of the best. There were guys in the minors who hit 40 HR's per year but never made the majors because they only batted .220 with a ton of K's.

Maris played in a time of full integration and before the game go easier with the DH (easier for the hitters), more night games, smaller ball-parks, etc.

I also consider Hank Aaron the HR King since, instead of doing it with steroids, he did it with class.