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Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street movie question


Has anybody ever heard or read why in the movie version of the stage Musical Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street that starred Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter, but has anybody read or heard when in what would be act 2 of the movie that they switched the first 2 songs of what would be act 2 on stage, God that is Good and Jonanna act II. If you ever watched a stage production or if anybody ever watched the stage taping of it in 1982 that starred Angela Lansbury and George Hearn, Good that is good is sung first and is much longer then what is in the film version, and yet for the movie that swept the order of the songs.

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I'm not sure if a specific reason was ever given, but the reason seems obvious to me. Chronologically, it makes sense to put "Joanna" before "God That's God" because we see killing various customers, thus giving Mrs. Lovett enough "supplies" to become as successful as she appears in "God That's Good."

The reason that this isn't the order of the songs in the stage version is because "A Little Priest" works as a fantastic Act 1 close, and "God That's Good" is a great Act 2 opener. The intermission allows for the audience to believe that some time has passed. The movie doesn't have this luxury, so "Joanna" works perfectly to show time passing. While it's a great song, it's not energetic enough to open the act and get the audience back into the world after having an intermission.

To sum it up: The stage order works best for the structure of a stage performance, and the movie order works best for the structure of a film.

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That does makes sense, but it is still something to wonder and ask about. Only that I know the in the stage musical that God is good is first, and it much longer then what you see here. I mean anybody that has seen just the movie version and not at all the stage version they don't realize how much more of the show that they are missing out on. Like say for example in the stage version A Little Less Priest both the characters of Sweeney Todd and Mrs. Lovett come up with various puns that none of them is used for the movie. And I do know that time does pass between act I and act II as one of the songs that is cut for the movie, that Jonna sings something like "you promised to marry me last August or summer", and she mentions of month it is to Anthony.

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I mean anybody that has seen just the movie version and not at all the stage version they don't realize how much more of the show that they are missing out on.

Those that have seen Burton's interpretation are familiar with the original (Len Cariou). The difference is, is that we prefer his version of the story.

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The bad part i haven't seen Len Cariou in the role of Sweeney Todd, and I don't think I ever will as there would be no recordings of him in the role which would be too bad. When they took the show on tour that includes Los Angeles with the taping of the stage musical Angela Lansbury was one of the original cast members to appear on stage, but he didn't and George Hearn that I see replaced him on Broadway played the role even on the tour.

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The bad part i haven't seen Len Cariou in the role of Sweeney Todd, and I don't think I ever will as there would be no recordings of him in the role
There are recordings of him, just not official.
https://youtu.be/ISp5sjaSnl0

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Well, that's certainly not universally true. There are plenty of people who have only seen the film and not any of the recordings of live performances or been to a performance of the stage show. For those who have seen both, some may prefer the film, some may prefer the stage version. But then there are always going to be those who have only seen one or the other. Our OP was very specifically saying that those who have only seen the film don't realize how much music they are missing, which is true regardless of which you prefer. The stage version does have much more music than the film.

Personally I loved the film, thought it was as close to a perfect adaptation as we could hope for (barring a few elements) but I do prefer the stage version for having more material. Much of what was cut from the film was done so with good reason and because it moves so well, I generally don't miss most of what's not there. But in general, I do prefer the full score.

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I will have to check them out

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Personally, I felt Johnny Depp was miscast as Sweeney. He just doesn't have the stature/ presence in body type or deep bass voice. I get that he is foreboding and he and Tim Burton have this bromance going on, but Sweeney is so much more. The bredth of his character requires much more weight as far intimidation.

I never cared for Helen B. Carter in musicals. Very weak breathy voice. Between her and Depp, the comedic elements very flat to nonexistent which are desperately needed both for comic relief and to present the dicotomy needed for creating anti-heros (protagonist). For irony sake!!!! They both seem to be typecast as the same character in every movie nowadays and don't bother to add anything new or intricate to their characters

Other casting was great!
Alan Richman and the Beadle were perfect... Even though the Beadle probably did not have the vocal chops, he was the most disgustingly nefarious Beadle ever. He brought something new to the character. I could say similar things about Richman and Sasha As Pirelli. Sasha was an unusual pick that pulled thru with comic genius.

Johanna and Anthony were ok... neither extrodinary nor painful to watch.

The overall move was very good, in my opinion.... Just didn't care for the 2 leads... Loved the scene where Sweeney actually built his specialized chair. Nice touch! The exaggerated comic book violence was appropriate for the film, whereas it would not work at all on stage.

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