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What Movies Did You Watch Last Week? (17/10-23/10)


Welcome back to another week of the BEST & WORST edition of 'what movies did you see last week?' thread. For those who haven't been part of it before, basically your hosts (us) posts our weekly movies and you can comment on those and list your movie for the same time frame. We will get back to you on yours and you can talk to other users here about their films. It's a great place to talk about film.



FIRST TIME MOVIE VIEWING

Don't Breathe (2016, Fede Alvarez)
This thriller mostly takes place in one location as a trio of thieves break into the house of a blind man who isn't as helpless as he seems. It is fairly well made and acted with some ok set pieces but for the most part I was not too invested, give me Green Room over this any day of the week.
5.5-6/10

Dead of Night (1974, Bob Clark)
The same year as he directed the influential Black Christmas he also made this lesser known UK/Canada funded horror film about a zombie Vietnam Vet. The film is quite starkly serious, sombre and plays out like an allegory for post traumatic stress syndrome. It is a little rough around the edges and feels a little dated but it is an interesting attempt at a serious horror with layers.
5.5-6/10

Lights Out (2016, Dvid F. Sandberg)
This is a pretty clinically put together studio horror film but it has some solid enough character moments and some interesting set pieces. Worth a once off.
5/10

Saw (2004, James Wan)
This is the first (and cited generally as the best) in a long series of films that involve elaborate plots to have people do things they do not want to do. In this one two strangers (Cary Elwes, Leigh Whannell) awaken in a room with no recollection of how they got there or why, only to discover they are pawns in a deadly game perpetrated by a notorious serial killer. The film is fairly interestingly structured with good use to flashbacks and is reasonably creative. However it is not a very well made film and at many stages I did not care how it was going to end. Most of the cast are quite good, especially Danny Glover (Lethal Weapon), Ken Leung (The Force Awakens) and Michael Emerson (Lost) but the two characters we spend the most time with (Elwes & Whannell) are pretty awful, especially Elwes who has never been a good actor but here he is t his worst. It is hard to care anything about what happens to them and Elwes just makes the whole thing ridiculous and pushes the score down considerably. Fun enough for a once off but I do not see a repeat viewing in my future and am unlikely to seek out the sequels in any kind of hurry.
5/10

Jack Reacher: Never Go Back (2016, Edward Zwick )
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The first Jack Reacher film was met with skepticism before it came out and was only a mild success at the box-office but found a large fanbase on the small screen for its hard edge, great atmosphere, superb car chase and a memorable villain. Four years later Jack Reacher returns and must uncover the truth behind a major government conspiracy in order to clear his name.
Tom Cruise is his usual excellent self and is joined by Cobie Smulders (The Avengers) & Danika Yarosh (Heroes: Reborn) who are good but unfortunately has a cookie cutter, cliche'd set of villains. This however is the least of the problems with this very tepid sequel that has a by the numbers script and incredibly bland direction. Edward Zwick (The Last Samurai) has never been the most visionary of directors but this film doesn't feel like it was made with and love or flare at all and feels dated and cheap.
In the end it is not a bad film but a very bland film and a real missed opportunity especially in the portions set during halloween in New Orleans. A better director might have been able to give something interesting to this run of the mill script but we are left something a little tired and forgettable with only a few entertaining sections.
4.5/10

The Seventh Victim (1943, Mark Robson)
This dark film follows a woman in search of her missing sister who uncovers a Satanic cult in New York's Greenwich Village, and finds that they may have something to do with her sibling's random disappearance. Tom Conway (Cat People) has top billing but serves in a supporting role and is good as always. The plot of the film is pretty dark for its day but it ends up being mostly rather dull.
4/10

Yoga Hosers (2016, Kevin Smith)
This second film in the True North Trilogy from Kevin Smith follows some of the minor characters from the first film Tusk on their own adventure against nazi monsters made of sausages. Where Tusk was actually a pretty reasonable effort with a workable plot albeit a strange one, it fell apart with the involvement of Johnny Depps terrible and unchecked character 'Guy Lapointe'. This film however has no structure, no point to make or exist and Depps return as Guy Lapointe might be the best thing in the film. Smith might be having a mental crisis as this is a drastic fall for even him. A couple of jokes work but little else does and the whole thing is just more annoying than anything else. I wonder if Depp sees these low budget weird films as a way to live out his Ed Wood fantasies?
2/10

REPEAT MOVIE VIEWING

Suspiria (1977, Dario Argento)
The last time I saw Suspiria was well over 10 years ago, late at night on an old VHS and I did not care for it much. I thought it was a high time I gave the revered horror another viewing and this time with high definition widescreen presentation. As the visual and audio elements are far and away the strongest thing in the production, this helped greatly with this viewing.
The story starts with a newcomer to a fancy ballet academy who gradually comes to realise that the school is a front for something far more sinister and supernatural amidst a series of grisly murders. Not unlike the Spaghetti westerns that were produced out of Italy in the 60's and 70's this too is made up of international players who act in their native tongues only to be re-dubbed if necessary for different markets. It is actually done pretty well as are pretty much all things of technical merit. The star of the film are the striking visual compositions and the intense score performed by Goblin. Argento really lucked out on collaborating with them to make this film so memorable s with a more typical score this film would be a much lesser experience.
The problem however is for all the style the film has it has a pretty poor plot and script and a few dubious line readings. I cannot just let it slide because it is such a visceral experience in other ways, the script is a mess and when the pace and score settle down, those parts are a bit of a chore to get through. It can definitely a case f style over substance but the style is enough to make it worth a viewing or two. I am sure Nicolas Winding Refn is a fan of this film from a production standpoint as many of the striking colours and compositions reminded me of his work. In the end I am happy to push the score up based on these things but can only go so far because the story is so lacking.
6-6.5

WEEKLY MOVIE AWARDS

BEST FILM - Suspiria
BEST ACTOR - Tom Cruise - Jack Reacher 2
BEST ACTRESS - Cobie Smulders - Jack Reacher 2
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR - John Marley - Dead of Night
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS - Danika Yarosh - Jack Reacher 2
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY - Luciano Tovoli - Suspiria
BEST SCORE: Goblin - Suspiria
BEST DIRECTOR - Dario Argento - Suspiria

10/10 - Perfection (or as close to it as possible)
09/10 - An Excellent film
08/10 - A VERY Good film
07/10 - A Good film
06/10 - A Solid film
05/10 - An Average film
04/10 - Below Average film
03/10 - A mostly bad film
02/10 - A mostly terrible film
01/10 - Awful through and through
00/10 - Not only awful but offensive too

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Yours:

Don't Breathe - Glad you didn't hate it. I too prefer Green Room, but not by a lot. 7.5/10

Saw - annoying editing was a big problem for me and I wasn't a big fan of some of the subplots. Cary Elwes was bad, but I thought Leigh Whannell was worse. Thr ending while cool, doesn't make much sense when you think about it. It's okay.
6/10

Jack Reacher: Never Go Back - my thoughts are below.

Suspiria - I'd like to give it a rewatch because I didn't quite like it the first time, due to some duller patches. The score and cinematography were excellent though. 6.5/10

First Time Viewings:

Diary of the Dead (2007, George A. Romero)
The second entry to Romero's second Zombie trilogy is a found footage film about a group of film students who stumble upon real zombies while making a Horror movie of their own. It's an interesting idea, but it's let down by the bland characters and lack of thrills. It has a few good parts here and there, but for the most part it really doesn't work.
5/10

Survival of the Dead (2009, George A. Romero)
The final entry to Romero's second Zombie trilogy is about a group a people on an island off the coast of North America who are fighting the zombiw epidemic while also looking for a cure. Again the characters are bland and the story has some pretty stupid stuff and very few memorable moments. It also has some pretty terrible CGI gore effects.
4.5/10

The Thing from Another World (1951, Christian Nyby)
Scientist and Air Force officials fend off an alien organism while at a remote arctic outpost in this first adapation of the John W. Campbell Jr.'s story "Who Goes There?". There are too many characters in this one so we never really get to know many of them. The film feels pretty uneventful for most of its runtime, but the finale was pretty good and helped bump up my score half a point.
6/10

The Thing (2011, Matthijis van Heijningen Jr.)
This one serves as a prequel to John Carpenter's classic of the same name. It felt a bit too close to Carpenter's film at times though, so it could be mistaken as a remake. The cast is okay and the CGI effects aren't that great. It is pretty well paced though and has a nice sense of paranoia at times. Honestly the best part was the end credits scene that leads into Carpenter's film accompanied by Ennio Morricone's badass theme.
6/10

The Wolf Man (1941, George Waggner)
Lon Chaney Jr. stars as a man who is bitten by a werewolf in this classic. The performances are solid across the board with Claude Rains impressing the most. The film starts a bit slow, but quickly picks up and makes for a nice short viewing that is well made and acted.
7/10

Candyman (1992, Bernard Rose)
This one is about a murderous soul with a hook hand that is accidentally summoned by a grad student researching the monster's myth. The story sounds interesting on paper, but the execution isn't quite up to par as it has some rather dull patches. Virginia Madsen is very good in the lead role, Philip Glass provides a great score, and Candyman himself is pretty creepy, but it never quite comes together.
6/10

The Witches of Eastwick (1987, George Miller)
The lives of three women are forever changed when a mysterious and flamboyant man arrives in town. The film probably doesn't need to be as long as it is, but it's well paced and is carried by a great cast which consists of Cher, Michelle Pfeiffer, Susan Sarandon, and Jack Nicholson, all of which chip in nicely. It also has a lot of laughs and a good John Williams score. 
7/10

The Changeling (1980, Peter Medak)
Shortly after the death of his wife and daughter a composer moves into a mansion that is haunted by a spectre. It's well made, has some memorable scenes, some nice twists, and is held together by the always wonderful George C. Scott in the lead role.
7/10

[Rec] (2007, Jaume Balagueró and Paco Plaza)
This found footage Horror film is about a news reporter and cameraman who follow emergency personel into an apartment building for their show, only to be locked in for unknown reasons. The film is nice and short, but very effective, with an incredibly intense finale.
7.5/10

The Burning (1981, Tony Maylam)
A mam who was badly burned at a summer camp go after those responsible in this slasher. The film is entertaining enough, but the first half seems pretty uneventful and the story is too similar to Friday the 13th which came out a year before. The finale picks things up though and makes it into a decent Horror film.
6.5/10

Sausage Party (2016, Greg Tiernan and Conrad Vernon)
The latest film from Seth Rogen and his crew is an animated story about food products that find out what humans do to them outside of the store. The premise is interesting, but unfortunately it was a pretty big disappointment for me. I wasn't expecting a lot, but I expected a lot of laughs and I really didn't find most of it that funny. There are a few laughs here and there, but nowhere near as many as I had hoped. The cast is good, with Edward Norton being the standout with his Woody Allen impression throughout. I felt they tried too hard and it fell flat though. It's entertaining enough, but could have been so much more.
6/10

Sinister (2012, Scott Derrickson)
Ethan Hawke stars as a true crime writer who moves into a house where a murder took place. He finds a box of films that show real life murders and discovers he might be onto something big. Hawke is really good and I found the story very interesting. It's a nice slow burn that builds atmosphere and has tons of really creepy moments. The music was great and very eerie and the ending was unexpected, but great. They go a bit overboard with jump scares at times, but I found it very effective overall.
7.5/10

Jack Reacher: Never Go Back (2016, Edward Zwick)
The sequel to Jack Reacher has been met with mixed reviews, but I myself enjoyed it. Tom Cruise is very good reprising the role and he has a solid supporting cast around him. There are lots of fun action scenes, an interesting story, and lots of good humor.
7/10


Repeat Viewings:

Psycho II (1983, Richard Franklin)
This sequel to Alfred Hitchcock's landmark film shouldn't work, but it does. Very well in fact. Anthony Perkins returns to the role that made him famous and this time he is center stage. He's great and the supporting cast is solid as well. The camerawork is very good, it has a good score, and lota of tense moments. I like that they did something different with the story and the film is well paced and has a terrific ending.
8/10

Psycho III (1986, Anthony Perkins)
The second sequel to Psycho isn't nearly as good as part 2, but is still pretty good. This one's more of a striaght up slasher, but it has some great moments and is pretty fun overall.
7/10

The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993, Henry Selick)
This holiday classic boasts a terrific soundtrack, cool character and set designs, and plenty of entertainment.
8/10

Jack Reacher (2012, Christopher McQuarrie)
I enjoyed this one a bit more than the firs time. Great action scenes, a strong cast, an interesting story, and a great finale.
7.5/10

Killer Joe (2011, William Friedkin)
This one gets better every time for me. I love its dark twisted sense of humor and the cast is amazing, especially Matthew McConaughey. The last act is insane, but I absolutely love it.
9/10

Manhunter (1986, Michael Mann)
This first adaption of Thomas Harris' novel Red Dragon suffers from some weak casting choices, but is elevated a bit by Michael Mann's direction. Mann's films always have great cinematogrpahy and music choices and this is no exception. Unfortunately William Peterson is a bit patchy in the lead role and I don't care for Brian Cox's take on Hannibal Lecter. I enjoyed this one the first time, but didn't really care for it this time around.
6.5/10


Movie Awards:

BEST FILM - Killer Joe
BEST ACTOR - Matthew McConaughey (Killer Joe)
BEST ACTRESS - Virginia Madsen (Candyman)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR - Jack Nicholson (The Witches of Eastwick)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS - Juno Temple (Killer Joe)
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY - Dean Cundey (Psycho II)
BEST SCORE - Philip Glass (Candyman)
BEST SCRIPT - Tracy Letts (Killer Joe)
BEST DIRECTOR - William Friedkin (Killer Joe)

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Candyman - 7/10 It certainly has flaws but I think the story elements, the directing, the brilliant score all combined make it just effective enough to work and Madsen gives a terrific performance. One of the few horror movies to actually get under my skin.

The Witches of Eastwick - 7/10

The Changeling - 6.5-7/10

The Burning - 5/10 Not my cup of tea in the same way most other slasher movies aren't.

Sinister - 7/10 This is one of the creepiest horror films of the last 10 years but suffers from some annoying cliches. Glad you liked it. I was mixed on the ending but I more liked it than didn't.

Psycho II - 6/10 surprisingly not that bad but not that good either.

The Nightmare Before Christmas - 6/10 Never been able to get into this one. It is creative but very clunky and it drags even while only being like 75 min.

Jack Reacher - 7/10 Entertaining overall but I wish it had a better finale.

Killer Joe - 6.5-7/10 Well made (for the most part) and certainly interesting and thrilling but it doesn't quite come together for me. Something is just slightly off here.

Manhunter - 6.5/10 The ending and some odd directing decisions by Mann keep this from being good. I prefer Red Dragon.

I agree with your acting wins but Candyman would be my picture and director win and Manhunter would take cinematography.




7/10=good()5/10=mediocre

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I was just never fully invested in the Candyman. The score was terrific though.

I loved the ending of Sinister and found the whole film really creepy and unsettling. It probably helped that I watched it alone at night.

Shame you don't like Psycho II more. I was surprised how much I liked it when I saw it two years ago. It held up wonderfully this time.

McConaughey is now my Best Actor win for 2012. I had him supporting before, but after this viewing I feel he's co-lead with Hirsch.

I prefer Red Dragon to Manhunter as well, mostly due to the cast. Imagine if Michael Mann directed the cast Brett Ratner had.

Cinematography was a toss up for me this week. It definitely could have gone to Manhunter, but I love a lot of the shots in Psycho II.

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Sinister is certainly unsettling.

McConaughey doesn't make either of my line-ups. He's just outside of both.

Imagine if Michael Mann directed the cast Brett Ratner had.

The acting in Manhunter isn't my main problem, so it still wouldn't have been good imo. The reason I prefer Red Dragon is becasue it explores Dolarhyde in a more interesting way imo.

Even if I re-watched Psycho it definitely wouldn't win over Manhunter's cinematography. That is the film's greatest asset, along with the score.



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McCoanughey in Killer Joe is one of my all time favorite performances.

I completely agree about Dolarhyde's story being more explored in Red Dragon. What I meant was if Michael Mann had directed Red Dragon rather than Brett Ratner, it would be better.

That is the film's greatest asset, along with the score.
I agree with that, though I'd say the score edges out the cinematography for me. Well more just the music in general, not just the score.

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McCoanughey in Killer Joe is one of my all time favorite performances.

I'm happy for you 

What I meant was if Michael Mann had directed Red Dragon rather than Brett Ratner, it would be better.

Maybe, but I liked how Ratner (or Norton or the studio or whoever LOL) tried to make it feel more like The Silence of the Lambs and I don't think Mann would have done that. Who knows though.



7/10=good()5/10=mediocre

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I really like Red Dragon (I'll be rewatching it this week), but I think the story and the cast save it from Ratner's bland direction. Michael Mann at least has style.

Have you read any of Thomas Harris' Lecter books? Red Dragon is the only one I've read.

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I like Ratner's direction here, which is why I'm not convinced he directed it without help and Norton is known for interfering with that process. I think the movie has good atmosphere, some very creepy moments and some very intense scenes. That is all part of the directing, as is the acting. As we all know, good actors can give bad performances.

I don't read fiction.




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